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Subject: Re: Fritz8 vs Shredder7 test (40'/40) after 3 serie(300 games)

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 07:27:02 03/15/03

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On March 15, 2003 at 10:11:14, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On March 15, 2003 at 09:59:05, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>Comparison Fritz8 vs Shredder7
>>Vergleich zwischen Fritz8 gegen Shredder7
>>Comparaison entre Fritz8 et Shredder7
>>Engine/Engine-Match, Time control 40'/40+40'/40+40'
>>Athlon 1.3/64 MB hash, ponder=off, 4-men TB's
>>Books/Bücher/Livres d'ouverture [write protected/schreibgeschützt]
>>*******************************************************************
>>
>>1) 100 x Fritz 8005  vs  Shredder 7.00 [remis.ctg] result = 45,0-55,0
>>2) 100 x Fritz 8005  vs  Shredder 7.04 [remis.ctg]
>>3) 100 x Fritz 8005  vs  Shredder 7.04 [f8-s7.ctg] result = 40,0-60,0
>>4) 100 x Fritz 8005  vs  Shredder 7.00 [f8-s7.ctg]
>>5) 100 x Fritz 80023 vs  Shredder 7.00 [remis.ctg]
>>6) 100 x Fritz 80023 vs  Shredder 7.04 [remis.ctg] result = 40,5-59,5
>>7) 100 x Fritz 80023 vs  Shredder 7.00 [f8-s7.ctg]
>>8) 100 x Fritz 80023 vs  Shredder 7.04 [f8-s7.ctg]
>>
>>
>>In the meantime 3 series have been played but all three 100 games-matches were
>>won by Shredder7. The results are - whichever versions we consider - rather
>>similar. And as we can see from series 3) and 6) the books used have no
>>influence at all.
>
>
>So Sandro's work would not make a difference at all?
>
>Has Sandro's book been used in this match? I guess it has been (S7.ctg)?
>
>
>
>    Christophe

Yes, it was the Shredder7.ctg but some people argue that Sandro's book would
only work properly under Shredder7-Classic-GUI [we played under Hiarcs8-GUI] or
that the books for ChessBase-GUI and S7-Classic-GUI would be different.
Kurt
>
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>
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> We do not think that there is significant difference between
>>the various Fritz8 versions and maybe we stop the test.
>>
>>Entretemps 3 séries [à 100 parties] ont été jouées, mais trois fois Shredder7
>>était le vainceur. Il ne joue aucune role si on utilise le livret d'ouverture
>>remis.ctg ou les fritz8.ctg et shredder7.ctg. Les différentes versions de Fritz
>>sont très similaires. Nous considérons de stop les matches.
>>
>>Nun sind bereits 3 Serien gespielt. Und alle 3 Serien über je 100 Partien konnte
>>Shredder7 für sich entscheiden. Unabhängig der eingesetzten Versionen sind die
>>Resultate vergleichbar. Und den Bucheinfluss [remis.ctg oder eigenen Bücher]
>>scheint es nicht zu geben. Wir überlegen uns deshalb, den Test zu beenden.
>>
>>
>>Serie 1: Match Fritz 8005 vs Shredder 7</b>
>>    Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.
>>  1 Shredder 7                     : 2617   65  52   100    55.0 %   2583
>>  2 Fritz 8005                     : 2583   52  65   100    45.0 %   2617
>>
>>
>>Individual statistics:
>>
>>(1) Shredder 7                : 100 (+ 38,= 34,- 28), 55.0 %
>>
>>Fritz 8005                    : 100 (+ 38,= 34,- 28), 55.0 %
>>
>>
>>(2) Fritz 8005                : 100 (+ 28,= 34,- 38), 45.0 %
>>
>>Shredder 7                    : 100 (+ 28,= 34,- 38), 45.0 %
>>
>>***************************************************************************
>>
>><b>Serie 3: Match Fritz8005 vs Shredder 7.04</b>
>><tt><pcode>
>>    Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.
>>Draws
>>
>>  1 Shredder 7.04                  : 2635   61  58   100    60.0 %   2565   30.0
>>%
>>  2 Fritz 8005                     : 2565   58  61   100    40.0 %   2635
>>30.0%
>></pcode></tt>
>>
>>
>><tt><pcode>Individual statistics:
>>
>>(1) Shredder 7.04             : 100 (+ 45,= 30,- 25), 60.0 %
>>
>>Fritz 8005                    : 100 (+ 45,= 30,- 25), 60.0 %
>>
>>
>>(2) Fritz 8                   : 100 (+ 25,= 30,- 45), 40.0 %
>>
>>Shredder 7.04                 : 100 (+ 25,= 30,- 45), 40.0 %</pcode></tt>
>>
>>**************************************************************************
>>
>>
>><b>Serie 6: Match Fritz 80023 vs Shredder 7.04</b>
>>
>><tt><pcode>
>>    Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.
>>Draws
>>  1 Shredder 7.04                  : 2633   61  56   100    59.5 %   2567   33.0
>>%
>>  2 Fritz 80023                    : 2567   56  61   100    40.5 %   2633   33.0
>>%
>>
>></pcode></tt>
>>
>><tt><pcode>Individual statistics:
>>
>>(1) Shredder 7.04             : 100 (+ 43,= 33,- 24), 59.5 %
>>
>>Fritz 80023                   : 100 (+ 43,= 33,- 24), 59.5 %
>>
>>
>>(2) Fritz 80023               : 100 (+ 24,= 33,- 43), 40.5 %
>>
>>Shredder 7.04                 : 100 (+ 24,= 33,- 43), 40.5 %</pcode></tt>
>>
>>
>>Homepage "Kurt & Rolf Chess": http://www.beepworld.de/members39/utzinger



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