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Subject: Re: Since the CPU is what really count for Chess !

Author: Matthew White

Date: 13:24:12 03/17/03

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On March 17, 2003 at 16:16:06, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 17, 2003 at 14:24:36, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>On March 17, 2003 at 13:26:46, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On March 17, 2003 at 06:43:53, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 16, 2003 at 21:03:07, Jason Kasick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Anyone heard of Polywell computers, namely the ones with the AMD 2500 chips?
>>>>
>>>>Since for Chess the CPU is what really count, here is an economical PC.
>>>>
>>>>http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0-1018-404-20837925.html?tag=txt
>>>
>>>
>>>the CPU is not the _only_ thing to look at.  Memory bandwidth is another.  A
>>>machine
>>>with a MB that supports interleaved memory will be somewhat faster, but
>>>generally somewhat
>>>more expensive as well.  There are other issues too, of course.
>>
>>
>>Intel uses interleaved memory.  What do SGI, IBM, SUN, use on their SMP
>>machines?  And for Cray, what was "crossbar"?
>
>Depends on what you mean by "Intel uses interleaved memory".  There were, in the
>past, plenty of dual MBs without interleaving.
>
>Cray also used interleaving.  I ran on machines with up to 32-way (32 banks)
>interleaving.
>I don't know of any super-computer that didn't/doesn't use interleaving.
>
>I don't use SMP suns.  SGI interleaves.  IBM also does.  I'd suspect big Suns do
>this as well
>but don't have access to any.
>
>
>>
>>Matt

The Suns do interleaving. The E10k's do according to one of Sun's marketing
pages (http://www.sun.com.au/products/hardware/highend/10000/Tour/memory.html).
I found evidence that several of the other SMP machines do as well.

Matt



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