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Subject: Re: Programs would have great difficulty finding the right idea !

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 04:11:26 03/19/03

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On March 19, 2003 at 06:46:56, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On March 19, 2003 at 06:19:18, Joachim Rang wrote:
>
>>On March 18, 2003 at 17:39:32, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On March 18, 2003 at 16:30:30, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>
>>>>hm, very well. But how can white make progress on the kingside?
>>>
>>>Apparently you just read the last paragraph, but did NOT bother to analyze the
>>>position at all.
>>>
>>>[D]8/8/4k1K1/2p1p3/2PbP1N1/8/8/8 b - - 0 9
>>>
>>>
>>>White will now play Kf6-h7-g5+, etc and win easily. However,
>>>if there were no black pawn on c5, then Black would have sufficient
>>>counterplay to hold the draw, since his King could use the c5-square
>>>to attack White's pawn.
>>>
>>>Pichard
>>
>>I meant this position:
>>
>>
>>[D]8/8/6k1/2p1p3/2P1P1K1/3N4/8/b7 w - - 0 1
>>
>>I did analyze this position with Ruffian and tried several ideas to make
>>progress on the kingside. Unfortunately I was unable to find a way to advance
>>with my king. What is the plan in this position?

>The idea is to get your White King to d5! by using your knight to chase the
>Black King away and eventually win the e pawn, but IM Burgess failed to give the
>correct continuation on his book. I also tried several lines with Fritz 8,
>Hiarcs 8 and Shredder 7, but failed to win with White. I guess that IM Graham
>Burgess did NOT tried this position himself before he stated that it was an easy
>win for White. Now the reason why we buy this programs is to see if they can
>help us analyze and learn from position such as this one.
>
>I already gave up on this position, since I can NOT find any top programs that
>can help me here.
>
>PS: Probably against another IM like Burgess he can prove that it is an easy
>win for White, but NOt against the top programs of today :-))
>
>Pichard.

>
>>The position that you posted above is clear to me but I do not see a way to
>>reach that position from the original one.



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