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Subject: Re: 88.86 ns on a Dual Xeon 2.8/533 ScienceMark 2.0 beta

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:14:38 03/20/03

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On March 20, 2003 at 12:11:11, Matt Taylor wrote:

>On March 20, 2003 at 10:45:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On March 20, 2003 at 06:58:18, Frederic Louguet wrote:
>>
>>>I have a Dual Xeon 2.8 Ghz here (Dell WS450) with 533 Mhz bus, chipset E7505,
>>>1 GB ram (2 x 512 PC2100 dual-channel non ECC non Registered), Windows XP Pro
>>>
>>>ScienceMark 2.0 beta indicates a maximum memory latency of 88.86 ns and a
>>>2865 MB/s memory bandwith.
>>>I don't run Linux and I don't have LMBench but maybe the ScienceMark results are
>>>similar.
>>
>>
>>What about LM Bench?
>>
>>My dual 2.4's, 2.8's have the E7500 chipset and are reporting 150ns (fastest is
>>145)
>>with 400mhz FSB and registered ECC RAM (DDR).  The 3.06's here have the same
>>chipset as yours, with the same 533mhz FSB, but latency is _still_ at 145ns
>>roughly.
>>
>>Perhaps it is the registered / ECC ram that is slowing things down, although I
>>would not
>>use non-ECC memory on any critical machine.
>
>Mission-critical, you mean, and Crafty isn't mission-critical...

Nope, but crafty isn't the only thing I run.  Which explains why it is not on
ICC all the
time, or is sometimes on using different hardware.


>
>I've got ECC ram, and I've never experienced a failure in all of the last 9
>months that I've had it. (Failures generate machine check exceptions which get
>logged for me, and the only machine checks I have logged were generated by
>internal ECC checks on the registers in my Athlon.)

My cluster has ECC ram.  I have had two failures in the past two years.  On
Non-ECC
machines, we have had multiple failures that were very hard to detect, because a
program
just crashes but runs fine the next time.  Until you stress-test with a memory
diagnostic
that may (or may not) uncover the problem.


>
>Non-ECC is faster. I believe it's the registered part that makes it so slow. I
>-think- you can buy ECC unregistered, but most companies won't make it because
>most people want both at the same time. This is what Micron said, anyway. I'm
>pretty sure I've seen ECC unregistered, but it's not terribly popular. There are
>usually restrictions on unregistered ram. I have 4 DIMM sockets and can only use
>2 unless I use registered ram. Most other DDR boards I've looked at have the
>same restriction, from the Abit KG7 to the latest & greatest.
>
>-Matt

I might investigate this just for fun.  I _believe_ my dual has 4 x 256 DIMMS,
but I don't
remember whether it has 8 or 16 slots total (I believe 8 but I'm not going to
open it up at
the moment.)




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