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Subject: Re: What Was Deep Thought's ICC Rating??

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 08:13:39 03/21/03

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On March 21, 2003 at 10:20:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 21, 2003 at 08:17:32, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On March 20, 2003 at 23:32:19, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On March 20, 2003 at 19:19:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 20, 2003 at 18:57:55, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 20, 2003 at 17:07:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>It's always interesting to read your short snippets about the history of
>>>>>computer chess. So when are you going to do us all a favor and write a book? :)
>>>>>
>>>>>>It was named "scratchy".  It had the best win/lose record of anything that ever
>>>>>>played on
>>>>>>ICC.  Something like 130 wins, 1 loss or some such.
>>>>>
>>>>>Even with all of the rating addicts who no-play other computers, no computer has
>>>>>surpassed this mark?
>>>>
>>>>I think that it is easy to surpass that mark.
>>>>
>>>>You only need to have friends that you can always beat and set a formula to play
>>>>only against your friends.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>Not if almost all the opponents are GM players.  :)
>>
>>Hmm, wonder how DT would do against todays "inflated" GM's whe have better
>>anti-computer experience and knowledg?
>
>I'd suspect it would do the same as it did back then.  The people that played it
>a lot already
>knew a lot about anti-computer play and they knew how dangerous the machine was.
>
>> Also wonder how DT would do against
>>players who use 1Ghz or faster comps/programs to help if they played DT today?
>
>No idea.  Most of the DT games on the chess server were 2 12 type games, so
>using
>a computer to help the human would be doable...
>
>
>
>>
>>I am sure that DT would not be 130 points higher than anyone or thing on ICC
>>today.  DT was ancient history and so was DB, good in their day, but that day is
>>past.  You can see DBII at the Smithsonian here in DC.  It is gone and in a
>>museum with all the other old relics.  ;)
>
>The atomic bombs are "relics of the past" as well.
>
>But don't screw around with those relics.  There's nothing else close to them,
>60 years after
>they were created.  :)
>
>Old != obsolete.

I do not think DT would do as well today, not even close.  The Nukes of 60 years
ago were very dangerous, however, they are not even close to the strength of
todays bombs or even bombs from the mid 1950's.  Technology moves foward.  DT
was great in it's day, but that day is gone.  You can see it for free here in DC
and go across the street and see the airplanes/bombs from the 1940's (still
dangerous) to the 1990's (very dangerous, no comparison, all obsolete).  Same
for the Dino's (dangerous, but obsolete).  :)

old technology != current technology strength/destruction/performance



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