Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 21:49:01 03/21/03
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On March 21, 2003 at 20:30:07, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>On March 21, 2003 at 19:30:51, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On March 21, 2003 at 19:09:36, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On March 21, 2003 at 19:04:41, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>FM burgess by the way, this is all burgess i found at the list of januari 2003:
>>>
>>> 400696 Burgess, Graham f ENG 2293 6 24.02.68
>>
>>>So if he is IM then he is dead old then. My fide lists do not find any IM
>>>burgess.
>>
>>Sorry the book stated Fide master, NOT IM.
>>
>>Jorge
>>
>>>>On March 21, 2003 at 18:56:33, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>You have this out of a book of burgess which he wrote for $1500
>>>>within a week?
>>>>
>>>>Simply take at g6 and pray white is called IM burgess. it is not easy
>>>>to win when black = computer and takes on g6. after Rg8 it is trivial.
>>>>
>>>>Just try yourself to play it with white against black = computer.
>>>>
>>>>Of course a program out of 2003 at todays hardware, not 1996 :)
>>
>>
>>You are correct, it is very hard to win against a computer like mine XP 2800+
>>after fxg6, but I forced Fritz 8.008 to play Rg8 and it drew with black.
>
>so you win after fxg6 with black as a human and you draw easily after rg8.
1. Ng6 Rg8 2. f4 Nd7 3. Ne5 Nxe5 4. fxe5 Qxe5 5. Qe2 Qc5+ 6. Kh1 Rf8 7. Qg4 Qg5
8. Qf3 f5 9. Bxc6+ Kf7 10. Bxb7 Rb8 11. Bc6 Rb2 12. Ba4 Kg8 13. Bb3 f4 14. a4
Kh8 15. Qe4 Qf6 16. Rd6 Qc3 17. Rd3 Qc5 18. Rfd1 Qg5 19. Qb4 Qf6 20. Kg1 Kh7
21. Qe4+ Qg6 22. Qd4 f3 23. Rxf3 Rxf3 24. Qxb2 Re3 25. Bc4 e5 26. Kf2 Re4 27.
Bd3 Rf4+ 28. Kg1 e4 29. Qd4 exd3 30. Qxf4 dxc2 31. Rc1 Qd3 32. Qf1 Qd2 33. Qe1
Qd4+ 34. Qf2 Qd1+ 35. Qe1 Bg4 36. Kf2 Qd3 37. Qe3 Qf5+ 38. Ke1 Bh5 39. g3 Bg6
40. Qf4 Qd5 41. h4 Be4 42. h5 Bd3 43. Qe3 Bf5 44. Qxa7 Qh1+ 45. Kd2 Qh2+ {
[%eval 3,14] [%emt 0:04:07]} 46. Kc3 {[%eval 0,15] [%emt 0:02:24]} Qxg3+ {
[%eval 0,14] [%emt 0:02:40]} 47. Kb2 {[%eval 0,14] [%emt 0:01:50]} Qe5+ {
[%eval 3,12] [%emt 0:01:13]} 48. Kb3 {[%eval 0,13] [%emt 0:01:35]} Qe2 {
[%eval -3,12] [%emt 0:01:35]} 49. Qc7 {[%eval 0,13] [%emt 0:01:08]} Qxh5 {
[%eval 0,13] [%emt 0:02:43]} 50. Rxc2 {[%eval 0,13] [%emt 0:01:28]} Bxc2+ {
[%eval 0,12] [%emt 0:01:29]} 51. Qxc2+ {[%eval 0,12] [%emt 0:00:21]} Kg8
52. Qc8+ Kf7 53. Qc7+ Kf8 54. Qf4+ Ke8 {[%eval 0,13]} 1/2-1/2
>what move is subjectively better then?
>
>But most important: diep plays Ng6 with white and wins.
>
>>Pichard.
>>
>>>>
>>>>>On March 21, 2003 at 17:13:18, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On March 21, 2003 at 16:47:59, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is from an actual game played between IM Burgess and Fritz 4 in 1996, but
>>>>>>>what makes this game great is the knight sacrifice in move 15.Ng6! which Not too
>>>>>>>many programs will find today. I can show you the rest of the game if you want
>>>>>>>me to, but first give all your top programs a shot at this, and even if white is
>>>>>>>loosing by two pawn it will eventually force a win for White.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[D]rnb1k2r/pp3pp1/2p1pq1p/8/4B1QN/8/P1P2PPP/3R1RK1 w - - 0 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Peanut for DIEP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>++ h4-f3 procnr=0 terug=-881 org=[-884;-883] newwindow=[-884;520000]
>>>>>>00:00 113041 113k 0 0 81390 (2) 6 (16,145) -0.814 Nh4-f3 O-O Qg4-g3 Qf6-e7 Nf3-e
>>>>>>5 Rf8-d8 c2-c3 Rd8xd1 Rf1xd1
>>>>>>00:02 117922 118k 0 0 235844 (2) 7 (21,254) -1.154 Nh4-f3 O-O Qg4-g3 Qf6-b2 Qg3-
>>>>>>c7 Nb8-a6 Qc7-a5 f7-f5 Rd1-b1
>>>>>>++ d1-d6 procnr=0 terug=-1153 org=[-1154;-1153] newwindow=[-1154;520000]
>>>>>>00:03 103254 103k 0 0 315959 (2) 7 (35,305) -0.939 Rd1-d6 g7-g5 Nh4-f3 Ke8-e7 Rf
>>>>>>1-d1 Qf6-f4 Qg4xf4 g5xf4
>>>>>>++ d1-d3 procnr=0 terug=-938 org=[-939;-938] newwindow=[-939;520000]
>>>>>>00:06 123697 124k 0 0 820112 (2) 8 (88,718) -1.157 Rd1-d6 Qf6-g5 Qg4-h3 O-O Rd6-
>>>>>>d1 Qg5-a5 Qh3-b3 Rf8-d8 Nh4-f3 Rd8xd1 Rf1xd1
>>>>>>++ h4-f3 procnr=1 terug=-1156 org=[-1157;-1156] newwindow=[-1157;520000]
>>>>>>00:09 130361 130k 0 0 1222794 (2) 8 (156,983) -0.964 Nh4-f3 O-O Qg4-h5 Qf6-e7 Rf
>>>>>>1-e1 Rf8-d8 Nf3-e5 f7-f5 Be4-f3 Rd8xd1 Re1xd1
>>>>>>00:19 153557 154k 0 0 3002042 (2) 9 (205,1320) -1.077 Nh4-f3 O-O Qg4-h5 Qf6-e7 R
>>>>>>f1-e1 Qe7-a3 Rd1-a1 f7-f5 Be4-d3 b7-b6
>>>>>>++ e4-d3 procnr=1 terug=-1076 org=[-1077;-1076] newwindow=[-1077;520000]
>>>>>>01:07 157531 158k 0 0 10584536 (2) 10 (664,3564) -1.063 Nh4-f3 Nb8-d7 Qg4-g3 Nd7
>>>>>>-c5 Rf1-e1 O-O Nf3-e5 Nc5xe4 Re1xe4 Rf8-d8
>>>>>>++ h4-g6 procnr=1 terug=-1060 org=[-1063;-1062] newwindow=[-1063;520000]
>>>>>>01:49 159829 160k 0 0 17424603 (2) 10 (969,5014) -0.683 Nh4-g6 f7xg6 Be4xg6 Ke8-
>>>>>>f8 Rd1-d3 Kf8-g8 Rd3-f3 Qf6-e7 Bg6-f7 Qe7xf7 Rf3xf7 Kg8xf7 Qg4-f4 Kf7-g8
>>>>>>01:55 160581 161k 0 0 18539141 (2) 11 (986,5164) -0.683 Nh4-g6 f7xg6 Be4xg6 Ke8-
>>>>>>f8 Rd1-d3 Kf8-g8 Rd3-f3 Qf6-e7 Bg6-f7 Qe7xf7 Rf3xf7 Kg8xf7 Qg4-f4 Kf7-g8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>dual k7 1.6ghz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Okay that is great that Diep found Ng6, but After Ng6 if you give Diep the black
>>>>>side, does it find the best defense according to IM Graham Burgess ...Rg8!
>>>>>
>>>>>Pichard
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