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Subject: Re: Another great tactical position to test top programs !

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 12:43:16 03/23/03

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On March 23, 2003 at 13:30:50, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>This game was played between Alekhine vs Steiner in August 1932 ( Pasadena
>Tournament) The best move played by Alekhine was Nd7!. So far Fritz 8 and Hiarcs 8 and Shredder 7.04 played the correct move. How many other programs can play 27.Nd7!
>
>[D]2q2rk1/br5p/p3b3/2p1N1pQ/2P3P1/1P6/PB3P1P/R3R1K1 w - - 0 1

In my opinion not a very good example. White can easily win with either 27.Nd7,
27.Ng6 and 27.Nf3 see the analysis below of Rebel 12 on P4 1.8/28 MB hash:
Kurt


Thinking....

  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Pos 1 - End 1
8 |   |   | *Q|   |   | *R| *K|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  00:00:00      00:00:00
7 | *B| *R|   |   |   |   |   | *p|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 | *p|   |   |   | *B|   |   |   |  Time          unendlich
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Hash          28 Mb
5 |   |   | *p|   | N |   | *p| Q |  Engine        Beta 1
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Personality   beta1.eng
4 |   |   | p |   |   |   | p |   |  anti-GM       Off
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Tactics       Off
3 |   | p |   |   |   |   |   |   |  Bluff Chess   Off
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Style         Normal
2 | p | B |   |   |   | p |   | p |  Strength      Strongest
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Search        Nullmove
1 | R |   |   |   | R |   | K |   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h

2q2rk1/br5p/p3b3/2p1N1pQ/2P3P1/1P6/PB3P1P/R3R1K1 w - -

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "??.??.????"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Pos 1"]
[Black "End 1"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[FEN "2q2rk1/br5p/p3b3/2p1N1pQ/2P3P1/1P6/PB3P1P/R3R1K1 w - - 0 1"]

1.*

00:00:00  1.00  -7.50  1.De8 Dxe8
00:00:00  1.01  -7.32  1.Df7+ Lxf7
00:00:00  1.02  3.15  1.Dxg5+ Tg7
00:00:00  2.00  3.15  1.Dxg5+ Tg7
00:00:00  2.03  3.18  1.Sd3 Tf3 2.Dxg5+ Kf8
00:00:00  3.00  3.33  1.Sd3 Lf7 2.Dxg5 Lg6
00:00:00  3.02  3.33  1.Sd7
00:00:00  4.00  3.33  1.Sd3 Lf7 2.Dxg5 Lg6 3.Dd5
00:00:00  4.01  3.33  1.Sd7
00:00:00  5.00  3.45  1.Sd3 Lf7 2.Dxg5 Lg6 3.f4
00:00:00  6.00  3.23  1.Sd3 Lf7 2.Dxg5 Lg6 3.f4 Dc6
00:00:00  6.01  3.41  1.Sd7 Dxd7 2.Dxg5 Kf7 3.Tad1 Dc6 4.Df6
00:00:00  6.04  3.41  1.Tad1
00:00:00  6.04  3.42  1.Tad1 Lb8 2.Sd3 Lf4 3.Sxf4 gxf4
00:00:01  7.00  3.78  1.Tad1 De8 2.Dh6 Te7 3.Sd7 Txd7 4.Txd7
                       Dxd7  (0)

00:00:01  8.00  3.45  1.Tad1 De8 2.Dh6 Te7 3.f3 Lb8 4.Dxg5
                       Tg7  (1)

00:00:01  8.02  3.56  1.Sd3 Tff7 2.Dxg5 Tg7 3.Lxg7 Txg7 4.Df6
                       Txg4 5.Kf1 Lf7  (1)

00:00:02  8.04  3.56  1.Sg6
00:00:02  8.04  3.85  1.Sg6 Te8 2.Dxg5 hxg6 3.Dxg6 Kf8 4.Dh6
                       Ke7 5.Tad1 Tf8  (2)

00:00:02  8.10  3.85  1.Dh6
00:00:02  8.10  4.52  1.Dh6 Te8 2.Df6 Lf7 3.Dxg5 Kf8 4.Tad1
00:00:04  9.00  4.55  1.Dh6 Lxc4 2.Sd7 Dxd7 3.Dxg5 Dg7 4.Lxg7
                       Txg7 5.Dh5  (3)

00:00:04  9.01  4.55  1.Sg6
00:00:06  9.01  5.29  1.Sg6 Tff7 2.Dxg5 hxg6 3.Dxg6 Kf8
00:00:09 10.00  5.78  1.Sg6 Tff7 2.Dxg5 hxg6 3.Dxg6 Tg7 4.Lxg7
                       Txg7 5.Dxe6 Dxe6 6.Txe6 Txg4 7.Kh1 Kf7  (7)

00:00:17 11.00  5.86  1.Sg6 Tff7 2.Dxg5 hxg6 3.Dxg6 Tg7 4.Lxg7
                       Txg7 5.Dxe6 Dxe6 6.Txe6 Txg4 7.Kh1 Th4
                       8.Txa6 Lb8 9.Tg1  (12)

00:00:40 12.00  5.88  1.Sg6 Tff7 2.Dxg5 hxg6 3.Dxg6 Tg7 4.Lxg7
                       Txg7 5.Dxe6 Dxe6 6.Txe6 Txg4 7.Kh1 Kf7  (28)

00:02:17 13.00  6.33  1.Sg6 De8 2.Sxf8 Dxh5 3.gxh5 Lxc4 4.Se6
                       Lxe6 5.Txe6  (66)


Positions                :     132.514.187
Nodes per second         :         622.132

Extensions (checks)      :               0 (0%)
Extensions (captures)    :               0 (0%)
Extensions (king safety) :               0 (0%)
Extensions (on depth)    :               0 (0%)
Extensions (remaining)   :               0 (0%)
Extensions (total)       :               0 (0%)

Hash Table               : 1.642.819  1.466.485  (99%)
Average depth            : 17
Deepest depth            : 50

*****************************************************************************************

Thinking....

  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Pos 1 - End 1
8 |   |   | *Q|   |   | *R| *K|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  00:00:00      00:00:00
7 | *B| *R|   |   |   |   |   | *p|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 | *p|   |   |   | *B|   |   |   |  Time          unendlich
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Hash          28 Mb
5 |   |   | *p|   | N |   | *p| Q |  Engine        Beta 3
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Personality   beta3.eng
4 |   |   | p |   |   |   | p |   |  anti-GM       Off
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Tactics       Off
3 |   | p |   |   |   |   |   |   |  Bluff Chess   Off
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Style         Normal
2 | p | B |   |   |   | p |   | p |  Strength      Strongest
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Search        Nullmove
1 | R |   |   |   | R |   | K |   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h

2q2rk1/br5p/p3b3/2p1N1pQ/2P3P1/1P6/PB3P1P/R3R1K1 w - -

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "??.??.????"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Pos 1"]
[Black "End 1"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[FEN "2q2rk1/br5p/p3b3/2p1N1pQ/2P3P1/1P6/PB3P1P/R3R1K1 w - - 0 1"]

1.*

00:00:00  1.00  -7.50  1.De8 Dxe8
00:00:00  1.01  -7.32  1.Df7+ Lxf7
00:00:00  1.02  3.15  1.Dxg5+ Tg7
00:00:00  2.00  3.15  1.Dxg5+ Tg7
00:00:00  2.02  3.15  1.Sd7
00:00:00  2.04  3.15  1.Sd3
00:00:00  2.04  3.33  1.Sd3 Lf7 2.Dxg5+ Lg6 3.Dd5+ Tbf7
00:00:00  3.00  3.33  1.Sd3 Lf7 2.Dxg5 Lg6 3.Sf4 Dc6
00:00:00  3.02  3.33  1.Sd7
00:00:00  4.00  3.33  1.Sd3 Lf7 2.Dxg5 Lg6 3.Dd5 Tbf7 4.Kh1
00:00:00  4.01  3.33  1.Sd7
00:00:00  5.00  3.38  1.Sd3 Lf7 2.Dxg5 Lg6 3.Tad1
00:00:00  5.01  3.38  1.Sd7
00:00:00  6.00  3.23  1.Sd3 Lf7 2.Dxg5 Lg6 3.f4 Dc6
00:00:00  6.01  3.23  1.Sd7
00:00:00  6.03  3.42  1.Tad1 Lb8 2.Sd3 Lf4 3.Sxf4 gxf4 4.Td6
00:00:01  7.00  3.78  1.Tad1 De8 2.Dh6 Te7 3.Sd7 Txd7 4.Txd7
                       Dxd7 5.Dxe6 Dxe6  (0)

00:00:01  7.08  3.78  1.Dh6
00:00:01  8.00  3.30  1.Tad1 De8 2.Dh6 Te7 3.f3 Tg7 4.Sc6
00:00:01  8.01  3.30  1.Dh6
00:00:02  8.01  4.62  1.Dh6 Lxg4 2.Sd7 Dxd7 3.Dxg5
00:00:02  8.11  4.62  1.Sg6
00:00:02  8.11  5.54  1.Sg6 Tff7 2.Dxg5 hxg6 3.Dxg6 Tg7 4.Lxg7
                       Txg7 5.Dxe6  (2)

00:00:04  9.00  5.74  1.Sg6 Tff7 2.Dxg5 hxg6 3.Dxg6 Tg7 4.Lxg7
                       Txg7 5.Dxe6  (3)

00:00:06 10.00  5.74  1.Sg6 Tff7 2.Dxg5 hxg6 3.Dxg6 Tg7 4.Lxg7
                       Txg7 5.Dxe6  (4)

00:00:12 11.00  5.78  1.Sg6 Tff7 2.Dxg5 hxg6 3.Dxg6 Tg7 4.Lxg7
                       Txg7 5.Dxe6  (8)

00:00:39 12.00  6.00  1.Sg6 Tff7 2.Tad1 Lb6 3.Dxg5
00:01:05 12.07  6.10  1.Sf3 Tff7 2.Tad1 Lb6 3.Td6 Tfe7 4.Sxg5
                       Lxc4 5.Txe7 Txe7 6.Tg6 Kf8  (42)

00:01:41 13.00  6.18  1.Sf3 Tff7 2.Tad1 Lb6 3.Td6 Tfe7 4.Sxg5
                       Lf5 5.Txe7 Txe7  (74)


Positions                :     103.551.905
Nodes per second         :         643.179

Extensions (checks)      :               0 (0%)
Extensions (captures)    :               0 (0%)
Extensions (king safety) :               0 (0%)
Extensions (on depth)    :               0 (0%)
Extensions (remaining)   :               0 (0%)
Extensions (total)       :               0 (0%)

Hash Table               : 1.458.099  1.290.705  (99%)
Average depth            : 17
Deepest depth            : 51







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