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Subject: Re: position, ruffian and crafty have problems

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 23:52:40 03/23/03

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On March 24, 2003 at 02:25:33, Bernhard Bauer wrote:

>On March 24, 2003 at 02:07:31, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>Position from Baron – Amateur    bm Qxc2
>>[D]2rr3k/pb3ppp/4p3/4P3/1n1B3R/1P4P1/P1q4P/1Q1RKB2 w - - 0 30
>>
>>For some reason, Ruffian and Crafty have a very tough time with this one.  I
>>wonder whether this could be due to some similarity between them.  A problem in
>>repetition detection, perhaps?  On my machine, amd 1.6ghz:
>>
>>            Fail-low  solution
>>Yace        0:15      0:20
>>CM          0:15      0:30
>>Shredder    0:35      0:45
>>Amateur     0:20      0:50
>>Ruffian     2:34      3:54
>>Crafty      5:42      > 9 minutes
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>>[Site "MICRON"]
>>[Date "2003.03.23"]
>>[Round "1"]
>>[White "The Baron 0.99.5a"]
>>[Black "Amateur 2.44"]
>>[Result "0-1"]
>>[TimeControl "40/600"]
>>
>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. g3 Be7 5. Bg2 O-O 6. Qc2 c6 7. O-O Nbd7 8.
>>Nbd2 b6 9. e4 Bb7 10. e5 Ne8 11. b3 Rc8 12. Bb2 c5 13. Rac1 cxd4 14. Nxd4
>>Kh8 15. Rfe1 Nc7 16. cxd5 Nxd5 17. Qb1 Nc5 18. Red1 Qd7 19. Ne4 Rfd8 20.
>>Ne2 Qb5 21. Nd4 Qa6 22. Nxc5 Bxc5 23. Bf1 Qa5 24. Rc4 b5 25. Nxb5 Qxb5 26.
>>Rh4 Bxf2+ 27. Kxf2 Qc5+ 28. Bd4 Qc2+ 29. Ke1 Nb4 30. Bxa7 Qc3+ 31. Kf2 Qf3+
>>32. Kg1 Qh1+ 33. Kf2 Qf3+ 34. Kg1 h5 35. Rd6 g5 36. Rh3 Rxd6 37. exd6 Rc2
>>38. Qxc2 Nxc2 39. d7 Qd5 40. Bb6 Qxd7 41. Rxh5+ Kg7 42. Rxg5+ Kf6 43. Rb5
>>Qd1 44. a3 Bc6 45. Rb4 Nxb4 46. g4 Nd3 47. Bd4+ Ke7 48. Bc5+ Nxc5 49. h4
>>{Baron resigns} 0-1
>
>Crafty 19.3 needs 28 sec on an AMD 1,8 GHz. So I can't see a very tough time.
>Regards
>Bernhard

Very interesting.  I was using Crafty 19.1.  I just ran the position on 19.2 and
19.3, confirming your results with 19.3.  19.2, however, behaves likes 19.1,
taking several minutes.  I'm off to check the source changes.

Crafty 19.2
-----------
White(1): analyze
              clearing hash tables
              time limit 2:36 (24:23)
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
                6     0.26  -1.10   1. Bxa7 Rxd1+ 2. Qxd1 Qxa2 3. Rxb4
                                    Qxa7 4. Qd4 Qa5
                6->   0.41  -1.10   1. Bxa7 Rxd1+ 2. Qxd1 Qxa2 3. Rxb4
                                    Qxa7 4. Qd4 Qa5
                7     0.94  -0.76   1. Bxa7 g5 2. Rc4 Qxh2 3. Rxd8+ Rxd8
                                    4. Bf2 Nd5
                7->   1.06  -0.76   1. Bxa7 g5 2. Rc4 Qxh2 3. Rxd8+ Rxd8
                                    4. Bf2 Nd5
                8     2.36  -0.85   1. Bxa7 Rxd1+ 2. Qxd1 Qxa2 3. Rxb4
                                    Qxa7 4. Qd4 Qa5 5. Kf2 Qc7
                8->   2.84  -0.85   1. Bxa7 Rxd1+ 2. Qxd1 Qxa2 3. Rxb4
                                    Qxa7 4. Qd4 Qa5 5. Kf2 Qc7
                9     6.34  -0.81   1. Bxa7 Rxd1+ 2. Qxd1 Qxa2 3. Rxb4
                                    Qxa7 4. Rd4 Qb6 5. Rc4 Qe3+ 6. Qe2
                                    Qxb3 7. Rxc8+ Bxc8
                9->   7.24  -0.81   1. Bxa7 Rxd1+ 2. Qxd1 Qxa2 3. Rxb4
                                    Qxa7 4. Rd4 Qb6 5. Rc4 Qe3+ 6. Qe2
                                    Qxb3 7. Rxc8+ Bxc8
               10    20.12     --   1. Bxa7
               10    23.55  -1.44   1. Bxa7 Qc3+ 2. Kf2 Qf3+ 3. Kg1 h6
                                    4. Rd6 Rxd6 5. exd6 Qh1+ 6. Kf2 Rc2+
                                    7. Qxc2 Qf3+ 8. Kg1 Nxc2
               10->  30.46  -1.44   1. Bxa7 Qc3+ 2. Kf2 Qf3+ 3. Kg1 h6
                                    4. Rd6 Rxd6 5. exd6 Qh1+ 6. Kf2 Rc2+
                                    7. Qxc2 Qf3+ 8. Kg1 Nxc2
               11    56.92  -1.07   1. Bxa7 Qc3+ 2. Kf2 Qf3+ 3. Kg1 h6
                                    4. Rd6 Rxd6 5. exd6 Qh1+ 6. Kf2 Rc2+
                                    7. Qxc2 Qf3+ 8. Kg1 Nxc2 9. d7 Qf6
               11->   1:05  -1.07   1. Bxa7 Qc3+ 2. Kf2 Qf3+ 3. Kg1 h6
                                    4. Rd6 Rxd6 5. exd6 Qh1+ 6. Kf2 Rc2+
                                    7. Qxc2 Qf3+ 8. Kg1 Nxc2 9. d7 Qf6
               12     2:00  -1.30   1. Bxa7 Qc3+ 2. Kf2 Qf3+ 3. Kg1 h6
                                    4. Rd6 Rxd6 5. exd6 Qh1+ 6. Kf2 Rc2+
                                    7. Qxc2 Nxc2 8. Bc5 Qf3+ 9. Kg1 Ne3
                                    10. Bd3
               12->   2:25  -1.30   1. Bxa7 Qc3+ 2. Kf2 Qf3+ 3. Kg1 h6
                                    4. Rd6 Rxd6 5. exd6 Qh1+ 6. Kf2 Rc2+
                                    7. Qxc2 Nxc2 8. Bc5 Qf3+ 9. Kg1 Ne3
                                    10. Bd3
               13     2:27     --   1. Bxa7
               13     5:08  -2.02   1. Bxa7 Qc3+ 2. Kf2 Qf3+ 3. Kg1 h6
                                    4. Rd6 Rxd6 5. exd6 Rc2 6. Qxc2 Nxc2
                                    7. Bc5 Ne3 8. Bh3 Be4
               13     8:48  -1.81   1. Qxc2 Nxc2+ 2. Kf2 g5 3. Rg4 Rc7
                                    4. Rd2 h5 5. Rxg5 Nxd4 6. Bg2 Bxg2
                                    7. Kxg2 h4 8. gxh4


Crafty 19.3
-----------
White(1): analyze
              clearing hash tables
              time limit 2:36 (24:23)
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
                6     0.25  -1.10   1. Bxa7 Rxd1+ 2. Qxd1 Qxa2 3. Rxb4
                                    Qxa7 4. Qd4 Qa5
                6->   0.39  -1.10   1. Bxa7 Rxd1+ 2. Qxd1 Qxa2 3. Rxb4
                                    Qxa7 4. Qd4 Qa5
                7     0.91  -0.76   1. Bxa7 g5 2. Rc4 Qxh2 3. Rxd8+ Rxd8
                                    4. Bf2 Nd5
                7->   1.03  -0.76   1. Bxa7 g5 2. Rc4 Qxh2 3. Rxd8+ Rxd8
                                    4. Bf2 Nd5
                8     2.31  -0.85   1. Bxa7 Rxd1+ 2. Qxd1 Qxa2 3. Rxb4
                                    Qxa7 4. Qd4 Qa5 5. Kf2 Qc7
                8->   2.78  -0.85   1. Bxa7 Rxd1+ 2. Qxd1 Qxa2 3. Rxb4
                                    Qxa7 4. Qd4 Qa5 5. Kf2 Qc7
                9     6.25  -0.81   1. Bxa7 Rxd1+ 2. Qxd1 Qxa2 3. Rxb4
                                    Qxa7 4. Rd4 Qb6 5. Rc4 Qe3+ 6. Qe2
                                    Qxb3 7. Rxc8+ Bxc8
                9->   7.13  -0.81   1. Bxa7 Rxd1+ 2. Qxd1 Qxa2 3. Rxb4
                                    Qxa7 4. Rd4 Qb6 5. Rc4 Qe3+ 6. Qe2
                                    Qxb3 7. Rxc8+ Bxc8
               10    20.12     --   1. Bxa7
               10    22.85  -2.64   1. Bxa7 Qc3+ 2. Kf2 Qf3+ 3. Kg1 h6
                                    4. Rd6 Rxd6 5. exd6 Qh1+ 6. Kf2 Rc2+
                                    7. Qxc2 Qf3+ 8. Kg1 Nxc2
               10    38.06  -1.85   1. Qxc2 Nxc2+ 2. Kf2 g5 3. Rg4 Rc7
                                    4. Be2 Rcd7 5. Bxa7 Rxd1 6. Bxd1 Rxd1
                                    7. Rxg5




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