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Subject: Re: Intersting testposition: multiple passed pawns

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 09:36:00 03/24/03

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On March 24, 2003 at 12:10:37, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 24, 2003 at 11:54:12, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On March 24, 2003 at 11:40:47, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>then yace has it wrong for Ng1.
>>
>>How can i ever communicate with a person who is just
>>busy writing over at very slow hardware what Yace wants
>>instead of looking to the position.
>>
>>DIEP says black up 3.0 after ng1:
>>
>>00:26 212290 212k 0 0 5632057 (2) 17 (136,896) 3.045 Kb7-c7 Kc4-b3 Kc7-c6 Kb3-c4
>> a5-a4 Kc4-b4 e5-e4 Kb4xa4 e4xd3 Ka4-b3 Kc6xc5 Kb3-b2 Kc5-d5 Kb2-c1 Kd5-e5 Kc1-d
>>1 Ke5-e4 Kd1-d2 Ke4-e5 Kd2xd3
>>
>>i told you to turn off nullmove. with nullmove it won't get a high
>>score. you never listen?
>
>I do not see a win in the line that Diep has.
>After I give the full pv of diep to yace it says 0.00 and I am also sure that it
>is a draw.
>
>If there is a win for black then it is clear that Diep does not see it.
>
>Here is the drawn position in the end of Diep's pv.
>
>[D]8/8/8/4k2p/3p3P/3K4/6p1/6N1 b - - 0 17
>
>
>Uri

Some programs have problems in this position:

[D] 8/8/8/2k4p/3p3P/3p4/1K4p1/6N1 b - - 0 13

Fritz 8 and Yace: =(0.00)

Analysis by Comet B60:

1. -+ (-4.09): 13...Kc4 14.Nh3 d2 15.Kc2 d1Q+ 16.Kxd1 Kc3 17.Ke2 d3+ 18.Kd1 d2
19.Ng1 Kd3 20.Nh3 Ke3
2. -+ (-3.26): 13...Kb4 14.Nf3 Kc4 15.Ng1 d2 16.Kc2 d1Q+ 17.Kxd1 Kd3 18.Ke1 Ke3
19.Nh3 d3 20.Kd1 d2
3. -+ (-2.88): 13...Kd5 14.Kc1 d2+ 15.Kxd2 Kd6 16.Nf3 Kd7 17.Ke2 Kd6 18.Kf2 d3
19.Kxg2 Kc6 20.Nd4+ Kd6
4. -+ (-2.70): 13...Kd6 14.Kc1 Kd5 15.Kd2 Kc4 16.Nf3

depth 20

Analysis by Little Goliath 2000 v3.9:

1. -+ (-4.24): 13...Kd5 14.Kc1 Ke5 15.Kd2 Ke4 16.Nh3
2. -+ (-4.10): 13...Kc4 14.Nh3 Kd5
3. -+ (-4.07): 13...Kb4 14.Nh3 Kc4
4. -+ (-4.07): 13...Kd6 14.Kc1 Kd5
5. -+ (-4.07): 13...Kc6 14.Kc1 Kd5
6. = (0.00): 13...Kb5 14.Kc1 d2+ 15.Kxd2 Kc4
7. = (0.00): 13...d2 14.Kc2 Kd5 15.Kxd2

depth 20

Michael




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