Author: Joachim Rang
Date: 13:24:12 03/24/03
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On March 24, 2003 at 12:36:00, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On March 24, 2003 at 12:10:37, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On March 24, 2003 at 11:54:12, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On March 24, 2003 at 11:40:47, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>then yace has it wrong for Ng1. >>> >>>How can i ever communicate with a person who is just >>>busy writing over at very slow hardware what Yace wants >>>instead of looking to the position. >>> >>>DIEP says black up 3.0 after ng1: >>> >>>00:26 212290 212k 0 0 5632057 (2) 17 (136,896) 3.045 Kb7-c7 Kc4-b3 Kc7-c6 Kb3-c4 >>> a5-a4 Kc4-b4 e5-e4 Kb4xa4 e4xd3 Ka4-b3 Kc6xc5 Kb3-b2 Kc5-d5 Kb2-c1 Kd5-e5 Kc1-d >>>1 Ke5-e4 Kd1-d2 Ke4-e5 Kd2xd3 >>> >>>i told you to turn off nullmove. with nullmove it won't get a high >>>score. you never listen? >> >>I do not see a win in the line that Diep has. >>After I give the full pv of diep to yace it says 0.00 and I am also sure that it >>is a draw. >> >>If there is a win for black then it is clear that Diep does not see it. >> >>Here is the drawn position in the end of Diep's pv. >> >>[D]8/8/8/4k2p/3p3P/3K4/6p1/6N1 b - - 0 17 >> >> >>Uri > >Some programs have problems in this position: > >[D] 8/8/8/2k4p/3p3P/3p4/1K4p1/6N1 b - - 0 13 > >Fritz 8 and Yace: =(0.00) > >Analysis by Comet B60: > >1. -+ (-4.09): 13...Kc4 14.Nh3 d2 15.Kc2 d1Q+ 16.Kxd1 Kc3 17.Ke2 d3+ 18.Kd1 d2 >19.Ng1 Kd3 20.Nh3 Ke3 >2. -+ (-3.26): 13...Kb4 14.Nf3 Kc4 15.Ng1 d2 16.Kc2 d1Q+ 17.Kxd1 Kd3 18.Ke1 Ke3 >19.Nh3 d3 20.Kd1 d2 >3. -+ (-2.88): 13...Kd5 14.Kc1 d2+ 15.Kxd2 Kd6 16.Nf3 Kd7 17.Ke2 Kd6 18.Kf2 d3 >19.Kxg2 Kc6 20.Nd4+ Kd6 >4. -+ (-2.70): 13...Kd6 14.Kc1 Kd5 15.Kd2 Kc4 16.Nf3 > >depth 20 > >Analysis by Little Goliath 2000 v3.9: > >1. -+ (-4.24): 13...Kd5 14.Kc1 Ke5 15.Kd2 Ke4 16.Nh3 >2. -+ (-4.10): 13...Kc4 14.Nh3 Kd5 >3. -+ (-4.07): 13...Kb4 14.Nh3 Kc4 >4. -+ (-4.07): 13...Kd6 14.Kc1 Kd5 >5. -+ (-4.07): 13...Kc6 14.Kc1 Kd5 >6. = (0.00): 13...Kb5 14.Kc1 d2+ 15.Kxd2 Kc4 >7. = (0.00): 13...d2 14.Kc2 Kd5 15.Kxd2 > >depth 20 > >Michael I'm not sure whether Yace and Fritz or Comet and Goliath have a problem with this position. I played it on with Comet and got after a few moves a 0.00 too.
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