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Subject: Re: Proposal when computers beat all humans

Author: Pham Hong Nguyen

Date: 16:57:36 03/24/03

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On March 23, 2003 at 08:51:43, emerson tan wrote:

>When  computers beat all humans, the interest will wane for computers versus

When? ;)

I believe that there are still many years to go before the strongest computer
can beat definitely the strongest human. Right after that, we can organize the
matches between humans and little weeker computers, say, two only processors
computers or normal PC computers. Right after normal PC computers can beat the
strongest human, we can organize the matches between humans and Palms or
PocketPCs. Right after that,...

Perhaps, we still have few decades to go without changing the rules :)

Pham

PS: do you want to try on other chesses, like Go or Chinese chess? There is
still much more work left than chess.


>humans. It will be hard to get sponsors. The only way to keep it interesting is
>to change the rules in favor of humans.
>
>One rule is to allow the humans to move the pieces on the board so as to avoid
>visualization blunders like what happened to Kramnik vs Deep Fritz and Kasparov
>vs Deep Junior. It will also be lest tiring and less lack of confidence for
>humans if they can move the pieces several moves deep until they are confident
>of their position. It is not interesting if  humans lose due to visualization
>blunders,under perform due to tiredness or take the draw because of lack of
>confidence thinking that they will blunder along the way against an opponent
>that will not blunder even in time pressure. Imagine if  humans will be allowed
>to move the pieces, they will have confidence that they will enter complications
>and play with the computers head on, the position will become more dynamic that
>we will have more decisive games. Kasparov might have played on in game 5 if he
>was allowed to move the pieces. We will have more quality games to replay.
>
>With  the proposal, it will be the calculating ability of the computer versus
>the judgment and intuition of the humans, not the calculating ability of
>computers versus human’s tendency to blunder, get tired or lose confidence.
>
>Another good thing about humans being allowed to move the pieces is that it will
>be more interesting for the TV  because you can see what the Grandmasters are
>thinking. Its much easier to sponsor if its  fitted for TV.
>
>Maybe giving the humans 2 ½ /hour versus 2 /hour for computers can be suggested
>for the time to move the pieces and move it back to original position.
>
>What do you think?



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