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Subject: Re: Why can't Fritz count?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 05:24:56 10/08/98

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On October 07, 1998 at 23:33:53, James T. Walker wrote:

>I gave Fritz 5.16 a position /p4K/P////k// W.  I think that I have that figured
>out right.  Anyway, Fritz announces #14 after about 16 sec.  But when you go
>through the moves it announces #13 twice, #10 twice,#8 followed by #9 etc.  It
>jumps from #6 to #4 no matter what move I make in that position.  After that it
>counts on down to mate properly.  It ends up with about a mate in 17.  What
>causes this phenom ?  Crafty with the same position announces #17 on the first
>move then while pondering it finds mate in 15.  After that it counts down by one
>to mate.  That seems fairly normal.
>Jim


This happens...  In the case of Crafty, I assume you are using databases,
which means it will never screw up...  but without databases there are two
kinds of mates... ones with mostly checks, and ones with quiet moves mixed
in.  Mostly checking lines are easiest to find at shallow depths because we
extend on checks, while "quiet" moves can cause a search to terminate without
finding the mate.  So you can see longer mates quicker, and if you stop a
search after finding a mate, you might not find the shortest.  In non-databse
mates, this happens to crafty all the time, too...



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