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Subject: Re: Very Tough Mate in 4 for Some Engines

Author: Mike Hood

Date: 04:44:47 03/28/03

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On March 28, 2003 at 05:27:50, Koundinya Veluri wrote:

>On March 27, 2003 at 21:12:39, William Kerr wrote:
>
>>[D]8/3p1p2/5Ppp/K2R2bk/4pPrr/6Pp/4B2P/3N4 w - - bm Nc3;id #1097 mate in 4
>>very-very tough;
>>
>>
>>Very tough mate in 4 for some engines.
>>
>>This position may have been posted before.
>>
>
>That's a nice null move killer to add to my list. King of Kings has no problem
>with it.
>
> 8     794       34          100000 [++] Ne3 d6 fxg5 hxg5 gxh4 Kxh4 Nxg4 e3
>                                         Rxd6
> 8     844       35          102189      Ne3 d6 fxg5 hxg5 gxh4 Kxh4 Nxg4 Kh5
>                                         Rxd6
> 9     844       97          302797      Ne3 d6 fxg5 hxg5 gxh4 Kxh4 Nxg4 Kh5
>                                         Rxd6
> 9     908       97          302925 [++] Ne3 d6 fxg5 hxg5 gxh4 Kh6 Nxg4+
> 9     917      115          365434      Ne3 d6 fxg5 hxg5 gxh4 Kxh4 Nxg4 Kh5
>                                         Nf2+ Kh4 Nxe4
> 9   99999      167          555211 [++] Nc3 d6
> 9  100004      170          559373      Nc3 d6 Bd1 e3 Ne2 Rxf4 Nxf4#
>10  100004      301          943854      Nc3 d6 Bd1 e3 Ne2 Rxf4 Nxf4#
>
>Koundinya

Assuming you meant it literally, could you please share your "list" with us? I
would be interested in a list of positions where using null moves causes a
mistake, either by missing a mate chance, missing an escape from being mated, or
just a big blunder.



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