Author: Marc van Hal
Date: 09:42:50 03/30/03
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On March 30, 2003 at 08:52:27, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On March 30, 2003 at 08:48:43, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>On March 29, 2003 at 08:56:40, Marc van Hal wrote: >> >>>On March 29, 2003 at 06:31:36, Chris Carson wrote: >>> >>>>On March 29, 2003 at 05:40:50, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi Jorge >>>>> >>>>>I do not understand what's your intention of this "test". Of course can White >>>>>open with 1.h3 and it will of course happen from time to time that White can win >>>>>a game. But what does this tell us? >>>>> >>>>>Kurt >>>> >>>>One thing it means to me is that the Opening Book and perhaps some evaluation >>>>tuning could improve Fritz. There are move of these and finding them (elusive) >>>>is interesting and helpful to the Fritz team. Just my thoughts. :) >>> >>>This are indeed some sort of anti computer move >>>But I would say 1.h3!? instead of 1.h3! >>>1.h3 infact points to d4 if it understands that we are already a step further. >>>When i posted analyzes of 1.h3 I mentioned that it might be so that in the >>>future very strong chessprograms come to the conclusion that this might be one >>>of the best moves >>> Acording to me 1.h3,b6 or 1..,b5 might be good choise at least pointing at the >>>light not the dark squares . >>> >>>Marc >> >> >>1.h3 b6 2.e4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.d4 Bd6 6.Bd3 Qe7+ 7.Be3 Bf4 8.Qe2 Bxe3 >>0.28/12 24 9.Qxe3 0.25/11 4 Qxe3+ 0.31/12 39 10.fxe3 0.28/11 4 Nf6 >> 0.31/11 13 11.Nc3 0.25/11 15 Nbd7 0.25/11 22 12.0-0-0 Bb7 0.22/14 >>57 13.Rhe1 Ne4 0.56/14 37 14.Bxe4 dxe4 0.41/13 5 15.Nd2 Nf6 0.25/14 >>15 16.Rf1 0-0-0 0.22/12 10 17.Rf4 h6 0.41/14 1:06 18.Rdf1 Rhe8 >>0.41/12 29 19.Rxf6 gxf6 -0.06/12 2 20.Rxf6 Rg8 -0.06/14 52 21.g4 h5 >>-0.41/14 36 22.Rf4 hxg4 -0.28/13 14 23.hxg4 f5 -0.19/15 54 24.gxf5 >>Rg1+ -0.34/12 3 25.Rf1 Rxf1+ -0.16/14 5 26.Nxf1 Rg8 -0.16/17 1:35 >>27.Kd1 Rg1 -0.06/14 13 28.Ke1 Ba6 -0.38/16 41 29.Ne2 Bxe2 -0.31/15 13 >> 30.Kxe2 Line >> >>This is the position after 30, Kxe2, as you can see 1.h3,b6 is Not a winning >>Line for Black. I just played this game in Blitz 10 Min >> >> >>[D]2k5/p1p5/1p6/5P2/3Pp3/4P3/PPP1K3/5Nr1 b - - 0 30 >> >> >>Analysis by Fritz 8: >> >>30...Rg2+ 31.Kd1 Rg1 32.Ke2 >> = (0.00) Depth: 7/20 00:00:00 22kN >>30...Rg2+ 31.Kd1 Rg1 32.Ke2 >> = (0.00) Depth: 8/18 00:00:00 46kN >>30...Rg2+ 31.Kd1 Kd7 32.Nd2 Rg1+ 33.Ke2 Rg4 34.c4 Ke7 35.Kd1 Kf6 >> = (-0.06) Depth: 9/21 00:00:00 94kN >>30...Rg2+ 31.Kd1 Kd8 32.Nd2 Rg4 33.d5 Ke7 34.Nb3 Kf6 35.Nd4 Rg2 36.Ne6 Kxf5 >>37.Nxc7 >> ³ (-0.31) Depth: 10/22 00:00:00 195kN >>30...Rg2+ 31.Kd1 Kd8 32.Nd2 Rg4 33.d5 Ke7 34.Nb3 Kf6 35.Nd4 Rg2 36.Ne6 Kxf5 >>37.Nxc7 >> ³ (-0.31) Depth: 11/20 00:00:00 313kN >>30...Rg2+ 31.Kd1 Kd8 32.Nd2 Rg4 33.d5 Ke7 34.Nb3 Kf6 35.Nd4 Rg2 36.Kc1 Ke5 37.c4 >>a6 >> ³ (-0.44) Depth: 12/26 00:00:01 616kN >>30...Rg2+ 31.Kd1 Kd8 32.Nd2 Rg4 33.d5 Ke7 34.Nb3 Kf6 35.Nd4 Rg2 36.a3 a6 37.Ne6 >> ³ (-0.38) Depth: 13/26 00:00:02 1356kN >>30...Rg2+ 31.Kd1 Kd8 32.Nd2 Rg4 33.d5 Ke7 34.Nb3 Kf6 35.Nd4 Rg2 36.a3 a6 37.Ne6 >> ³ (-0.38) Depth: 14/27 00:00:05 2883kN >>30...Rg2+ 31.Kd1 Kd8 32.Nd2 Rg4 33.d5 Ke7 34.Nb3 Rg2 35.Nd4 Kd6 36.Ne6 Rf2 37.c4 >> ³ (-0.44) Depth: 15/30 00:00:11 6305kN >>30...Rg2+! >> µ (-0.72) Depth: 16/53 00:00:25 13840kN >>30...Rg2+ 31.Kd1 Kd8 32.Nd2 Rg4 33.d5 Ke7 34.Nb3 Rg2 35.Nd4 Kd6 36.Ke1 Kxd5 >>37.f6 Ke5 38.f7 >> µ (-0.72) Depth: 17/35 00:00:54 28824kN >>30...Rg2+ 31.Kd1 Kd8 32.Nd2 Rg4 33.d5 Ke7 34.Nb3 Rg2 35.Nd4 Kd6 36.f6 Rf2 37.c4 >>Rxf6 >> ³ (-0.69) Depth: 18/34 00:02:13 67293kN >>30...Rg2+ 31.Kd1 Kd8 32.Nd2 Rg4 33.d5 Ke7 34.Nb3 Rg2 35.Kc1 Re2 36.Nd4 Rxe3 >>37.Kd2 Rh3 38.Nb5 Rf3 >> µ (-0.72) Depth: 19/54 00:04:55 146347kN Jorge 1 question do you actualy know why Fritz evaluated the position for a longtime as good for White? Maybe you will get a beter vieuw on the postion when you can answer it. But showing comp comp games to make theoretical statments is a bit dumb Especialy 10 minute games Still If you don't know the answer I will give it. 1 hint is Kings Indian . Marc
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