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Subject: Re: Pocket PC: NPS and rating

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 18:39:02 03/30/03

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On March 30, 2003 at 13:35:07, Chris Carson wrote:

>On March 30, 2003 at 11:53:21, James Constance wrote:
>
>>1.  Why is there such a difference in Nodes Per Second in Pocket PCs when
>>compared with PCs?  e.g. Shredder on my Athlon 1200 Mhz might do 180,000 NPS for
>>a given position, whereas my StrongArm 200 Mhz does only 4,500 NPS for the same
>>position.  That's a factor of 40 - I was optimistically expecting it to be
>>closer to the ratio in processor speeds.
>>
>>2.  Anybody have a stab at how much this reduces the SSDF quoted rating by?
>>
>>cheers!
>
>I collected NPS for a few Pocket PC's and Palm devices and also for the SW on
>PC's.  The 206 seems to be about the same NPS as a 33Mhz 486 and about the same
>playing strength.  For a specific program (ie Ruffian or Chess Tiger), the ELO
>will drop by about 70 points for each 50% reduction in NPS.  So a Pocket PC
>206Mhz is about 400 points weaker than an AMD 1.2Ghz.  Same for the Palm.  Take
>a look at the SSDF list:
>
>http://w1.859.telia.com/~u85924109/ssdf/list.htm
>
>Chess Tiger 15 AMD 1.2Ghz  is 2726 SSDF
>Chess Tiger 14.9 Palm m515 is 2101 SSDF
>
>Ruffian 1.01 AMD 1.2Ghx    is 2671 SSDF
>Ruffian 1.04 ARM 206Mhz    is 2050 aprox.
>
>I have played all four of the above and this is also my experience.  I am rated
>2150.  I have also posted NPS for the four above in previous posts as well as
>Chess Genius (similiar experience on both machines for CG).


Thanks for the post -- I disagree with the 70point reduction for 50% less power.
 The inverse of that , 70 point increase for 100% increase is clearly too high.
I would cut the 70 point reduction in half.  Say 35 point delta for every 100%
increase or 50% reduction.



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