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Subject: Re: How strong is Deep Sjeng?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:59:42 04/01/03

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On March 31, 2003 at 15:38:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 30, 2003 at 05:05:34, George Sobala wrote:
>
>>On March 29, 2003 at 16:52:21, Jan Kiwitter wrote:
>>
>>>On March 29, 2003 at 15:17:01, Jason Waugh wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's style is highly customizable - it comes with a bunch of different
>>>>personalities pre-configured, along with a personality editor to make your own.
>>>>RE: strength.... I wouldn't buy it for it's strength compared to engine 'X' -
>>>>but it makes an excellent complement to Chess Tiger 15 because it is so much fun
>>>>to play --- DS for playing, CT15 for analysis.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jason.
>>>
>>>Thanks for you opinion! Why is it fun to play with? Does it play very active?
>>>Regards
>>>Jan
>>
>>You can make it play VERY active! See redshift running on ICC for an example -
>>playing to a rating of about 2450 on a K6-450, very happy to make sacs in the
>>opening and middle game. Other engines slaughter it because they defend
>>precisely, but against humans it is different: e.g. against one IM (Chito Garma,
>>FIDE 2415) who has played it at 3 0 blitz on this setting it has scored +61 =3
>>-46. The very fact that he has played it 110 times suggests that there must be a
>>fun element!
>
>
>yes, but that -46 suggests that the settings while "fun" are very "bad".

Everything is relative

+61 suggests that the setting was better than the 2415 at 3 0 game.

I think that some change in the rules is needed if you want to do blitz games
of GM's against computers interesting and fair.

A possible idea that I suggested in the past is to allow both sides to take back
moves and times limited number of times in the game.

I think that supporting this idea by chess servers is not hard to do.
I do not know how many take backs are needed for GM's to score 50% against
computers in blitz.

Note that take back could be also without playing a move and if a player thinks
a long time about interesting option and suddenly see that he has almost no time
left he can ask to take back the time instead of playing a wrong move and asking
to take back move and time.

Uri



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