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Subject: Re: Why I am not going to the Graz WCCC

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 13:01:16 04/01/03

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On April 01, 2003 at 13:46:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>  I don't mind if someone wants to discuss the war and give reasons
>why
>they think it is wrong.  I think it is wrong in some ways myself, but the
>overall
>concept is that this is very likely a necessary bad thing to do.
>
>however, discussing the war is one thing, but sending an email with no content
>except for "hate" is another.  The _only_ text in the email Bruce/I/Others
>received
>was exactly what Bruce gave (I posted the full email a week or two back myself,
>but without the jpeg photo).

i know that bruce and you and others are very tolerant and that is
exactly what todays world-situation IMO needs. people who are OPEN
and have the courage to STAND discussions with diametral point of views.

it's a strength to discuss heated without forgetting afterwards that
the other side is a friend.




>It is hard to justify the email as a "protest" because there were no words of
>protest included.  Just "a dead american is a good american" sort of
>implication.

very sad.
to excuse this behaviour i can only imagine that the sender
was very deeply emotionally hurt by the images he saw about the war.

you must try to understand this. news in europe is not filtered.
we get the full program here.
not censored.

so the horrible scenes of war that come to us today hit us 100%.
And many europeans still have good memories about the war in special
because most of their families had to suffer.

so i can understand that someone is emotionally hurt, very tough.
In fact, - as you maybe read the last weeks - many of us (me included)
have posted many tough stuff in CTF.

Not (IMO) because we hate you or any other american personally.
only because we cannot stand seeing all those images daily,
and not becoming hurt.

it depends if you allow emotions to reach you.
or not.

on the other hand - understanding that somebody can be upset -
i don't see how YOU (as american chessprogrammers) should be in any
way in charge for what is happening now.

So i would (although i have nothing to do with this computerchess association)
like you to overthink this again and travel to graz, and try to solve the
misunderstanding.

i hope that this war will not split the people.

better beat each other on a chess board, like vincent said.
fight on the chessboard, and be friends in real life.
even in difficult times.



>At the very best spin you can put on it, it was tasteless.   It was _not_
>"thought
>provoking" as the sender later claimed.


so he apologized. tasteless, maybe in an emotional situation.


>  It was exactly what one might have
>expected in the 1940's, except replace "american" by "jew" and there you go.

jew/communist/indian

use whatever word. its a racistic sentence.
and we should not use such a stuff.

better fight racism than create new one.




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