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Subject: Re: Why I am not going to the Graz WCCC

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 03:28:04 04/02/03

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On April 01, 2003 at 23:39:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 01, 2003 at 18:16:23, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On April 01, 2003 at 16:13:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>Yes.  Bu t notice _you_ are discussing something.  Not just saying "here is an
>>>American I like" and attaching a photo of a dead soldier.
>>>
>>>That's the part I took issue with.  And apparently Bruce as well.  And a few
>>>others will to I suspect.
>>
>>
>>Bob, just let us reflect this a little bit.
>>
>>What is worse in your eyes:
>>
>>  A) the email with a picture of a soldier, prisoner, and a text or
>
>tasteless, and shows a total lack of class, but not comparable in any way
>to the war...
>
>
>>
>>  B) the USA army on order of Bush,
>>
>>       a) bombing civilian targets in Iraq
>
>This is not happening so far as factual records have shown.  There may well
>be a stray bomb here and there.  The pentagon is claiming 90% accuracy for the
>precision munitions.  With 1000 sorties a day, dropping (say) 2 bombs per
>sortie (I don't know what the bomb load is for whatever aircraft are being
>used, some may carry 1/2, although the b52's and b2's carry a dozen or two
>depending on size.  If you figure 10,000 bombs dropped a day, 10% of that
>could be as much as 1000 bombs gone astray.  How far astray is an issue I can't
>answer.  But there is little visual evidence of destroyed civilian locations.
>
>>       b) killing civilians peacefully passing by
>
>Which _could_ be carrying bombs or rifles, as has already happened.  If a
>civilian stops when told to stop, there is _no_ problem.  I certainly stop
>when a police officer says stop, and I haven't been shot yet.
>
>
>
>
>>       c) invading a country against the will of the UN and
>
>Not quite so clear.  The 1991 gulf war never _ended_.  The cease-fire
>included UN stipulations that have not been met.  So the case is not so
>open as shut as you might imply.
>
>
>>       d) going for the murder of the Iraqi President without
>>          allowance whatsoever, how this is justified?
>
>
>From the biblical expression "an eye for an eye..." He's certainly been
>responsible for enough deaths to make this justifiable.  I think the people
>of Iraq agree, based on interviews on news stations.
>
>
>>
>>Just to reflect the situation. Perhaps you can then understand why people feel
>>offended by the policy of the US administration.
>>
>>Best,
>>Rolf Tueschen
>
>As I said, I'll discuss "ideas".  But I don't want tasteless photos with
>insulting titles, with no discourse included.

In a message to Gerd Isenberg I tried to explain the logic of such cynical
postcards. It's a smart form of sharp reasoning to make you Americans upset. On
emotional grounds. It's propaganda in the name of PEACE if you want. Of course I
can see the right in all of your answers above. I have no problem with any of
them. But I wished that you could understand why other people have a different
opinion /view to all these points. If you could only understand this little bit,
THEN you could also understand the cynical smartness of such anti-war propaganda
postcards. Youre not a hypocrite? I don't think so!

Best, Rolf



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