Author: David Dory
Date: 04:01:56 04/02/03
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On April 02, 2003 at 05:50:04, Aaron Tay wrote: >On April 02, 2003 at 00:17:29, David Dory wrote: > >>On April 01, 2003 at 20:29:19, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>>On April 01, 2003 at 19:55:32, David Dory wrote: >>> >>>>An obvious conflict of freedoms: not one Muslim country is a democracy. Not one. >>> >>>Turkey, Indonesia, and Pakistan. That's all I can think of now, but it would >>>not surprise me if there were more. >>> >>>But this kind of stuff is more appropriate for CTF, I think. >>> >>>bruce >> >>This exact question was asked this week to the government spokesman from Saudi >>Arabia. >> >>The spokesman agreed, there was NOT ONE Muslim country that was a democracy. >>Not a single one. >> >>Turkey is a secular country, IIRC, and Pakistan is a military dictatorship (he's >>**promised** to have elections, though :) ). >> >>You may think of Indonesia (which has a huge Muslim population), as the >>exception, but I defer to the Muslim spokesman from Saudi Arabia. He made it >>very clear. > >I submit respectfully the "muslim spokesman" is wrong. > >Malaysia is a democracy for one. So is Indonesia. > >Aaron These are both secular countries with lots of muslim citizens. They are not muslim countries, only following muslim law(s). You may have seen the interview on ABC news. He was the foreign minister I believe, definitely from Saudi Arabia, wore a red and white checkerboard headcovering with a black ring over it to keep it on his head. Both the ABC political reporter and the minister agreed - there were none, although the minister had to be asked twice before answering. It was aired on the ABC "World News Tonight" and their political show on Sunday AM also. Some muslim countries are strange though. Like United Arab Emirates has a one house Council - but they have NO power to change the ruler's laws in any way. They may comment on them, only. There are no political parties, all the judges are appointed by the president, and of course, no elections: ============================== Legislative branch: unicameral Federal National Council or Majlis al-Ittihad al-Watani (40 seats; members appointed by the rulers of the constituent states to serve two-year terms) elections: none note: reviews legislation, but cannot change or veto Judicial branch: Union Supreme Court (judges are appointed by the president) Political parties and leaders: none ============================== If you think that the typical muslim fundamentalist has the same sensitivities and civilized attitudes as are common throughout the USA, Canada, and Mexico. Well, think again. Many are raised with a degree of intolerance for others that is hard to believe. As Winston Churchill once stated: "Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the 'worst' form of Government except all those others that have been tried from time to time." Guess who won the Nobel prize for literature in 1953? Quite a guy, WC. Dave Apologies for being off-topic. I'm waiting for the 0400 hrs. Centcom briefing on the big fight last night.
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