Author: José Carlos
Date: 08:05:28 04/03/03
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On April 03, 2003 at 10:47:29, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On April 03, 2003 at 08:28:35, José Carlos wrote: > >>On April 03, 2003 at 07:51:44, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >> >>>On April 03, 2003 at 07:34:00, enrico carrisco wrote: >>> >>>>On April 03, 2003 at 06:54:10, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 03, 2003 at 05:09:35, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 02, 2003 at 12:51:09, margolies,marc wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Rolf it is neither the postcards or the killing that is particularly insulting. >>>>>>>What is most insulting is the CELEBRATION of Atroccities against Americans. >>>>>>>While we can all have different political views of this war or anything else, it >>>>>>>is reasonable to examine the hospitality of our potential hosts when they are >>>>>>>not appalled by barbarity exercised towards us. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>1 Without profile or other evidence you are simply not trustworthy to me. >>>>>> >>>>>>2 "Killing is not particularly insulting" - I tend to disagree. >>>>>> >>>>>>3 "CELEBRATION of Atroccities against Americans" - Your invention? Where? Who? >>>>>> >>>>>>4 "While we can all have different political views of this war or anything >>>>>>else" - If you were serious you would also apply this view which isn't mine, >>>>>>it's yours, to the author of the emails. But you are not capable of - therefore >>>>>>I say that it is so important to know if we talk among educated people or not. >>>>>>Most critics of Dr. Donninger have no idea what they are talking about. But they >>>>>>seem to know exactly what Donninger had in mind. Good morning Exorcism of the >>>>>>time 400 years ago! >>>>>> >>>>>>Someone who is pro massacres of the Iraqi people, in short this war, should not >>>>>>be whining about acid cynisms with the pictures of dead soldiers of the country >>>>>>who's President ordered all this killing and massacres. Period. >>>>>> >>>>>>The killer is the Bush USA troops but Dr. Donninger is the _reporter_ of that >>>>>>mass killing of the Bush USA, he's NOT the killer himself. Period. >>>>> >>>>>Good point, Rolf >>>>>Uli >>>> >>>>I am not surprised to see the twist and skew that Mr. Tueschen has applied here >>>>-- this is a longstanding trademark of his. Originator of conflict, personal >>>>attacks and drama 100%, useful computer chess contributions 0%. What is >>>>surprising, however, is to see your supporting comments. >>>> >>>>What kind of "_reporter_" sends these types of emails? What are they reporting? >>>> Perhaps nothing but their own ignorance, animosity and inhability to deal with >>>>their own feelings. >>>> >>>>Sending emails of this sort to Mr. Moreland and other Americans is completely >>>>misdirected (not to mention disgusting and unprofessional.) Did Mr. Moreland >>>>make the decision to go to war? Did Dr. Donninger even know Mr. Moreland's >>>>personal viewpoint concerning the war? This same style of thinking would >>>>propose that both you and Mr. Tueschen should be considered second generation >>>>Nazis. After all, you are from Germany. >>> >>>I have not said, that I think sending these emails had been a good idea. Neither >>>do I think so. My comment of agreement referred purely to the text posted by >>>Rolf. >>>Having read it again, I can't find any personal attack in his post. >>> >>>It's just an attempt of weighing sending a nasty email with what' s happening in >>>Iraq. >> >> Sad news to me to see you so confused. >> I had a different view of you. >> No offense intended, I deeply respect you. >> >> José C. > > >Normal reaction if you see yourself a member of some party. But I did NOT - and >thankfully another academic like Uli saw this - took sides or attacked but I put >the two sides against each other. Of course Dr. Donninger hurts the here >concerned Americans, perhaps he even hurts all the friends of America. But that >is not the point. The real content of these private, I repeat PERSONAL, emails >is an outcry - disguised in art - against the massacres committed by the Bush >USA Army... This is a legal, fair and decent position. _Your_ position and the >one of many others would not even allow tolerance for such a decent position. >And that is the reason why I give my lessons here for free. I fight for >democracy, more, for humanity. Well, a Spain has some experience of the opposite >of all that. > >It's so sad that many here, although very smart, do not tolerate the opinions - >privately sent - of a dear collegue. That is really frightening. Also I tend to >see it as mostly unwanted to publish private emails in public. Interesting that >Bruce showed up with it. Until now I always saw him as the defender of democracy >and style even if the content was heavy dosis of whatever... > >Let's come back to human standards as soon as possible. But note : not Dr >onninger started this race! His art is just the diagnosis and possible remedy. > >Rolf I wasn't talking to you. I didn't show any lack of tolerance, read my words "deeply respect". I won't anser your insults. José C.
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