Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 15:25:56 04/03/03
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On April 03, 2003 at 16:53:15, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>On April 03, 2003 at 09:17:07, Ingo Bauer wrote:
>
>>On April 03, 2003 at 09:06:28, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 03, 2003 at 09:02:36, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 03, 2003 at 07:56:04, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[D]8/8/8/5bk1/8/8/4B1PP/5K2 b - -
>>>>>
>>>>>S7 don't find -Bh3 in 10 minutes. Why???? I don't have full 5 piece TBs for
>>>>>sure, but most amateurs find move even without (any) TBs.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>There are amateurs that can find it(Comet,List,Crafty,Goliath Light) but
>>>>I think that you are wrong to assume that most amateurs find it
>>>>without any tablebases.
>>>
>>>The interesting thing is that after Bh3 gxh3 shredder7.04 has
>>>no problem to see score that is close to 0.00
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>And even without these two moves S7.04 finds the right move (even without TBS).
>>I think SMK just assumes that EGTB are installed and invests his time in the
>>developing of the middlegame.
>>
>>Engine: Shredder 7.04
>>by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
>> 15/23 0:01 -2.41 1...Kh4 2.g3+ Kh3 3.Kg1 Be6 4.Bf1+ Kg4 5.Kf2 Bb3 6.h4 Kh5
>>(966.073) 684.1
>> 16/23 0:02 -2.41 1...Kh4 2.g3+ Kh3 3.Kg1 Be6 4.Bf1+ Kg4 5.Kf2 Bd7
>>(1.426.582) 681.5
>> 17/24 0:03 -2.48 1...Kh4 2.g3+ Kh3 3.Kg1 Be4 4.Bf1+ Kg4 5.Kf2 Kf5 6.h4 Bb1
>>(2.134.547) 696.6
>> 18/25 0:04 -2.54 1...Kh4 2.Kg1 Be4 3.g3+ Kh3 4.Bf1+ Kg4 5.Kf2 Bf5
>>(2.928.529) 701.2
>> 18/25 0:05 -2.53++ 1...Bc8 2.g3 Kf6 3.Kf2 Kg7 4.h4 (3.691.933) 707.6
>> 18/25 0:05 -2.53 1...Bc8 2.g3 Kf6 3.h4 Bh3+ 4.Kf2 Kf5 (4.221.440) 712.1
>> 19/25 0:07 -2.54 1...Bc8 2.g3 Be6 3.Kf2 Bh3 4.Bf1 Be6 5.h4+ Kh6 6.Be2
>>(5.704.164) 727.4
>> 20/29 0:11 -2.58 1...Bc8 2.g3 Bh3+ 3.Kf2 Kf6 4.Bf1 Bf5 5.Kf3 Kg5 (8.235.709)
>>738.2
>> 20/29 0:11 -2.57++ 1...Kh4 2.Kg1 Be6 3.g3+ Kh3 4.Bf1+ Kg4 5.h4 Kxg3 6.Kh1
>>(8.647.117) 736.8
>> 20/29 0:11 -2.54 1...Kh4 2.Kg1 Be6 3.g3+ Kh3 4.Bf1+ Kg4 5.Kf2 Kg5 6.h4+ Kh6
>>(8.782.453) 735.1
>> 21/28 0:16 -2.59 1...Kh4 2.g3+ Kh3 3.Kg1 Be4 4.Bf1+ Kg4 (12.201.319) 737.9
>> 22/29 0:20 -2.63 1...Kh4 2.g3+ Kh3 3.Kg1 Be6 4.Bf1+ Kg4 5.Kf2 Kg5 6.h4+ Kh6
>>(15.186.945) 737.6
>> 22/29 0:27 -2.62++ 1...Be6 2.g3 Bh3+ 3.Kf2 Kf6 4.Bf1 Bd7 5.Kf3 Kg5 6.h4+ Kh6
>>7.Bd3 (20.968.050) 749.9
>> 22/29 0:28 -2.62 1...Be6 2.g3 Bh3+ 3.Kf2 Kf6 4.Bf1 Bd7 5.Kf3 Kg5 6.h4+ Kh6
>>7.Be2 Be8 (21.055.269) 750.0
>> 23/31 0:32 -2.64 1...Be6 2.g3 Bh3+ 3.Kf2 Kf6 4.Bf1 Bd7 5.h4 Kg6 6.Bd3+ Kh5
>>7.Be2+ Kg6 (24.392.433) 755.2
>> 23/31 0:34 -2.63++ 1...Kh4 2.g3+ Kh3 3.Kg1 Be6 4.Bf1+ Kg4 5.Kf2 (25.929.445)
>>754.4
>> 23/31 0:34 -2.63 1...Kh4 2.g3+ Kh3 3.Kg1 Be6 4.Bf1+ Kg4 5.Kf2 Bd7
>>(25.982.062) 754.4
>> 24/31 0:40 -2.65 1...Kh4 2.g3+ Kh3 3.Kg1 Be6 4.Bf1+ Kg4 5.Kf2 Bd7 6.h3+ Kg5
>>7.Ke3 (30.416.866) 756.1
>> 25/33 1:32 -2.69 1...Kh4 2.Kg1 Bh3 3.g3+ Kg5 4.Kf2 Kf6 5.Bf1 Bd7 6.h4 Kg6
>>(76.058.270) 821.5
>> 26/35 2:13 -2.79 1...Kh4 2.g3+ Kh3 3.Kg1 Bd7 4.Bf1+ Kg4 5.Kf2 Bb5
>>(112.698.079) 846.2
>> 26/37 3:27 -2.78++ 1...Bh3 2.gxh3 Kf6 3.Kf2 Kf7 4.Ke3 Kg6 5.Kf3 Kf6 6.Kg3
>>(178.054.166) 857.9
>> 26/37 3:47 -2.76 1...Bh3 2.gxh3 Kf6 3.Kf2 Ke6 4.Kf3 Kd7 5.Kg4 Ke6 6.Kg3 Ke7
>>7.Kf3 Kd7 8.Kg4 Ke6 9.Kg3 Ke7 10.Kf3 Kd7 11.Kg4 (197.978.185) 870.0
>> 27/34 4:55 -2.71 1...Bh3 2.gxh3 Kf6 3.Kf2 Kf7 4.Kg3 Ke6 5.Bc4+ Ke7 6.Be2 Ke8
>>7.Kf3 Kd7 8.Kg4 Ke6 9.Bf3 (259.151.305) 876.0
>> 28/33 5:53 -2.75 1...Bh3 2.gxh3 Kf6 3.Kg2 Ke7 4.Bg4 Kf6 5.Kf2 Ke7 6.Bf3 Kd7
>>7.Bg4+ Ke8 (315.614.167) 893.7
>> 29/35 7:48 -2.77 1...Bh3 2.gxh3 Kf6 3.Kf2 Kg7 4.Ke3 Kf6 5.Bb5 Ke7
>>(429.173.379) 916.2
>> 30/36 11:32 -2.77 1...Bh3 2.gxh3 Kf6 3.Kf2 Kg7 4.Bd3 Kf7 5.Ke3 Kf6 6.Bb5 Kf7
>>7.Bc4+ Kg7 8.Kf2 Kf6 9.Kf3 Kg5 10.Kf2 Kf6 11.Kf3 Kg5 12.Kf2 Kf6 13.Kf3
>>(647.952.615) 935.3
>> 31/39 18:33 -2.77 1...Bh3 2.gxh3 Kf6 3.Kf2 Kg7 4.Bd3 Kf7 5.Ke3 Kf6 6.Bb5 Kf7
>>7.Bc4+ Kg7 8.Kf2 Kf6 9.Be2 Kg7 10.Bd3 Kf7 11.Ke3 Kf6 12.Bb5 Kf7 13.Bc4+ Kg7
>>14.Kf2 Kf6 (1.029.503.191) 924.3
>> 32/39 23:18 -2.77 1...Bh3 2.gxh3 Kf6 3.Kf2 Kg7 4.Bd3 Kf7 5.Ke3 Kf6 6.Bb5 Kg5
>>7.Kf2 Kh5 8.Kg2 Kh6 9.Kg3 Kg5 10.h4+ Kg6 11.h3 (1.296.567.477) 926.9
>> 33/41 55:26 -2.80 1...Bh3 2.gxh3 Kf6 3.Kg2 Kg5 4.Kg3 Kf5 5.Bb5 Kg5 6.Bd3 Kh6
>>7.Kf4 Kh5 (3.309.327.529) 994.9
>>best move: Bf5-h3 time: 61:30.376 min n/s: 1.006.540 CPU 99.5% nodes:
>>3.714.502.698
>>
>>
>>Bye Ingo
>
>
>1... Bh3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} ({Fritz 8:} 1... Kh4 2. Kf2 Be4 3. g3+ Kh3 4. Kg1 Bf5
>5. Bf1+ Kg4 6. Kf2 Kg5 7. h4+ {[%eval 153,16]}) ({Fritz 8: 1)} 1... Bh3 2. Kf2
>Bxg2 3. Kg3 Bf3 4. Bd3 Be4 5. Bc4 Bd5 {[%eval 19,13]}) ({Fritz 8: 2)} 1... Kh4
>2. Kf2 Be4 3. g3+ Kh3 4. Kg1 Bf5 5. Bf1+ Kg4 6. Kf2 Kg5 7. h4+ {[%eval 153,16]}
>) 2. Kf2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bxg2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Ke3 {(Kg3) [%emt 0:00:00]}
>Kh4 {(Bf3) [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. Kd4 {(Bd3) [%emt 0:00:00]} Kh3 {[%emt 0:00:00]}
>5. Bd3 {(Bb5) [%emt 0:00:00]} Be4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Bc4 {
>(Bf1+) [%emt 0:00:00]} Bd5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Bf1+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} Kxh2 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 1/2-1/2
Analysis by Fritz 8:
1...Bh3 2.Kf2 Bxg2 3.Kg3 Bf3 4.Bc4 Bd5 5.Be2 Kh6 6.h4
² (0.28) Depth: 19/26 00:00:12 8242kN
(Pichard, MyTown 03.04.2003)
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