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Subject: Re: Why I am not going to the Graz WCCC - Nonsense, you will go!

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 17:15:46 04/03/03

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On April 03, 2003 at 19:22:21, Robin Smith wrote:

>On April 03, 2003 at 18:07:34, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On April 03, 2003 at 17:47:16, Robin Smith wrote:
>>
>>>On April 03, 2003 at 05:46:41, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 02, 2003 at 18:50:22, Robin Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 02, 2003 at 07:43:44, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>>P.S.  I am and always have been AGAINST this war.  But both you and Chrilly's
>>>"art" are not helping.  You MAY understand European "art", although I seriously
>>>doubt it,
>>
>>Simply learn to read for a start, this could help. I said "political art".
>
>In almost ALL of your posts you have said "art" WITHOUT any preface "political"
>
>Here are some quotes to remind you what you wrote:
>"Andy Warhol BTW used it as an American in his art."
>"All what you could do is talking about good art or bad art. But you can't start
>to forbid thoughts or art!"
>".... the reaction of unexperienced experts. Art! Art! Art!"
>"Or is art forbidden if it's against war?"
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?291569
>
>"I don't know if you wrote the message before or after my message about ART"
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?291605
>
>"This is a personal insult and not art. You are confusing the two."
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?291659
>
>And others.  RARELY did you use the preface "political".


You are possibly right. But you give the solution below! At first - in my first
post where I said art - I said political art. Then I said simply the short art.
Below you give the reason for that.  The point is that art alone gives people
who can't think for themselves the difficult problem how such postcards could be
art. Adding political it is clearly detectable as propaganda. That is exactly
what I said. It's a form of propaganda. You can agree or disagree. But to say I
don't go to... that is no answer.


> So perhaps YOU should
>learn to read what you write.
>
>Besides, is "political art" not a type of "art"?  Of course it is.  Please learn
>English better before accusing a native English speaker of not knowing how to
>read his native language.  I know how to read English far better than you ever
>will.  And I'll promise to never accuse you of not knowing how to read German,
>OK?

If you also let me alone with my English then I would be happy. You don't
understand what it is when I tell you something to your English. As a German.
But if you can't understand it then you can't understand art either. :)




>
>>> but you clearly do NOT understand Americans, or American  politics, or
>>>how to win support for your ideas from Americans.
>>Was that my intention? I write my opinions but I do have no interest in winning
>>support from specific groups
>
>I see.  You are against the war, but are not actually trying to persuade others
>to be against the war.  I think you are doing a very good job of not persuading
>people.

Wrong. I argue to the best I can. If people understand it's ok. But I do not
seek for support at all cost.




>
>-Robin



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