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Subject: Re: Here's some Shock for all of You: It's Art!

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 17:52:48 04/03/03

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On April 03, 2003 at 19:06:20, Peter Skinner wrote:

>There is no art factor about the photos that were sent to Bruce. That is just
>plain insanity. If you really believe that, then you need help. I suspect that
>you are just trying to get a rise out of people here in this forum. And
>congratulations, you succeeded.
>
>Just the very context that the pictures were sent, and the captions that came
>with them suggests something other than art. They suggest someone taking
>liberties at americans. Nothing more, nothing less.
>
>I am Canadian, I am for the war, and I love the fact someone in the world has
>the gusts to take a dictator like Saddam out of the picture. He has had long
>enough to disarm, and to comply with U.N resolutions. Instead he started a
>completely new threat, nuclear weapons. This has yet to be totally proved, but
>in the end it will be.
>
>Chrilly Donninger needs a kick in the head. Nothing more, nothing less. It was
>not only in poor taste, it was down right disgusting. To state his views in the
>manner that he chose just is down right psychotic. Get the man a pill.
>
>The U.S as a whole is very proud of it's military. In some countries the
>government has to threaten people to go fight for them. In the US, people join
>everyday on their own. They want to fight for the values that they have been
>brought up on. They fight for the people that either can't or won't. Does that
>make them bad? No. They provide not only the U.S with a blanket of protection,
>but I am guessing they are providing protection in probably 12 other countries
>around the world. Peace keeping. Removing threats to civilians. Distributing
>food to those that require it due to a failed government, or a dictatorship. I
>for one will support them no matter what happens. They fight currently, when my
>government wouldn't help. I would have gone in a heart beat. They would not even
>had to ask. I would have stood right next to them.
>
>So Rolf, these pictures are not art. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.
>The pictures were taken, posted on TV, which in itself broke the Geneva
>Convention, to anger Americans. And it worked. 24 hrs after the pictures were
>posted the US REALLY went to war. They hit them with everything they had. And I
>mean everything. Iraq broke the unwritten rule. War kills people, but you don't
>flagrantly show the victims of war. Everyone knows that. The images are
>scarring.
>
>I hope one day I do meet Mr.Donninger ( I hope I am spelling it right ), because
>I would show him my view of people that are completely ignorant. And it is not
>going to be pleasant.
>
>So please continue to follow this insane view of "art" and I will certainly
>"paint" it out nice and clear for you what I think art is, and how messy it can
>get.
>
>Peter.



Peter, I answer you because I always liked the name Peter. And Skinner is a
famous behaviorist.

Please do me a favour and spell with me, letter after letter:


P -O-L-I-T-I-C-A-L ART.



   And NB not the pictures alone are ART, they are NOT, but the context of these
pictures and the wordings on the postcards, this is a form of art. That together
is called political art or propaganda art. Just call it the way you want. But
don't go so low and insinuate that I could have called naked pictures "art". In
Germany there's a famous artist, Staeck, who does such postcards. In Canada
there must be the one or the other too. Just make a little research. Hey, let me
out of your terrible special forces. Peace. :)=


Rolf



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