Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 02:14:14 04/04/03
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On April 03, 2003 at 18:55:08, Marc van Hal wrote: >On April 03, 2003 at 16:58:35, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On April 03, 2003 at 15:36:54, Marc van Hal wrote: >> >>>On April 02, 2003 at 07:59:46, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>> >>>>On April 02, 2003 at 07:06:26, Gerd Isenberg wrote: >>>> >>>>>That's not the point here. >>>>> >>>>>The point is that Donninger as a formerly person of honour and as a initiator of >>>>>the Graz WCCC sends these mails to Bruce and Bob, which is an affront. >>>> >>>>I see what you mean but you underestimate your collegue IMO. I already >>>>addrressed this argument in another message. Let me repeat the key for the >>>>solution. BECAUSE Chrilly sent the emails and DID NEVER post it here, says to me >>>>at least that he wanted a personal contact or debate for the question. He >>>>expected a personal response from a friend, not a public sort of de-masking, >>>>what actually was happening here with Bob's message a week ago and now Bruce's >>>>decision. I for one NEVER met Chrilly in person, but I would in special >>>>recommand you, because the article is in German, to read Chrilly's Nachruf on >>>>Jan Louwman. And Louwman was famous for his intriguing impoliteness. At least >>>>Chrilly gave a sound explanation (Jan's Jewish catastrophy due to the Holocaust >>>>where he had lost almost all his family) and added also his own partly "cynical" >>>>comments EVEN in the obituary, which shows exactly his indivudualism. I think >>>>there in that article you can find the necessary data for a better understanding >>>>of your collegue. He's extremely intelligent and that leads to extremely >>>>strange actions at times. He's also in a field where traditionally it is >>>>selfunderstood to make all kind of such jokes. >>>> >>>>In short - I see a very personal outcry for contact but I see no personal insult >>>>against the two collegues. >>>> >>>>Hoffentlich bald wieder an "Board" Wünsche, >>>>Rolf >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>Gerd >>> >>>When Chrylly would have liked to provoke his American collegues >>>He first should have asked himself the questions >>>Where do I want to provoke them to? >>>What can they do? >>>What kind of effects will these pictures give to my American collegues? >>>And do these pictures answer to the point I wanted them to provoke to? >>>What are the standing points of these American collegues acording the war in >>>Iraq? >>>If I was an American how would I feel about it? >>> >>>Like Bruce said Chrilly had every uportunty to soften his standing point. >>>So for now his email remains a sick joke made by a madman. >> >> >>Funny to read such lines about an academic. And also terrible in case that he is >>right. But here in CCC insults are cheap and also the claim of suffering under >>fantasised insults. In the meantime people die in Iraq. Civilians! By the hand >>of USA soldiers. But this is not a problem for some here. But Dr. Donninger had >>a problem with it! And I support his artistic presentation. It's one way of >>protest. Surely he will now soften his action. Surely NOT!! >> >>Best, >>Rolf >> > >>Never ever let yourself lead by titles. >Maybe he has the brains, now he has to learn how to use them corectly. >In a beter organized form rather then to 1 subject. >Like I wrote before he should look deeper at the end result. >Which he didn't > >Also If he doesn't defend himself he agrees with all fantasies made here. >It is for him to defend himself not me not you or anybody else. >Because then it only remains speculating. You still miss the most important. HE didn't go into public and distributed his postcards or wrote a message here. That was Bruce's "action". Why he should "defend"? Others propose he should apologize. What a pompous nonsense. If I ever wrote private email I expected a little bit more style by the addressee... Best, Rolf > >Marc > > > > > > > >> >>>It is for him to defend this point or not. >>>We can only guess on his intentions. >>>Did he simply want to hear what his collegues had say about the conflict? >>>Is he afraid to meet some of his oponents? >>>Or is his search depth not deep enough? >>>etc. etc >>> >>>But in a worsed senario case he could be proviking all of you. >>>Many of you do go to Grazz don't you? >>>That's why he mentioned I will drink a beer with all of you in Grazz. >>>No mather how much you hate him for what he did. >>>Makes him the Bush of the computerchessworld. >>>And you are his soldiers. >>>And in that sence Rolf is on to something. >>> >>>Though I think this is to much credit. >>>And weird. >>> >>>And in the meantime not looking deep enough at the end result. >>> >>> >>>Marc
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