Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 03:25:27 04/04/03
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On April 04, 2003 at 05:55:17, Ed Schröder wrote: >On April 04, 2003 at 05:30:15, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On April 04, 2003 at 02:31:08, Ed Schröder wrote: >> >>>On April 03, 2003 at 20:39:52, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>> >>>>This time you argue way better. >>> >>>>But please tell me why Bruce is a victim. >>> >>>Because you reason as if mankind is a robot without feelings. >>> >>>Nuff said. > > >>You perhaps, but Ed, I tell you something. You are really confused because what >>you normally publish in CTF you should _defend_ Chrilly, your former collegue, >>and you should punch Bruce for the scandal of publishing private emails. Period. > >I should this, I should that... I am not your puppy Rolf :) > > > >>You are saying Good-Bye to all the Anti-Americanism you posted into CTF? Or are >>you split into CCC Ed and CTF Ed? > >I oppose the US government and their actions, I have no argument with its >citizens. > >But maybe you will understand better if someome starts to send you Holocaust >pictures by email and personally blame you for their death because you are >german. > >Man is no robot, the thing has feelings and certain lines can not be crossed, >you as a professional psychologist certainly will recognize some logic in that. And therefore I know, only therefore, that Bruce destroyed the whole context by going into public. Ed, it is simply not sound. Helpers come running telling us that Chrilly was atleast sending Briuce "veiled death threat". Even Bruce said no to such nonsense. I knew it already before that it wasn't blackmail or such, it's not a personal threat. It's more the try to make someone think. Because what Bruce wrote in CTF was enough to show how he thought. And he was very confused. Much much less than you for example. :) Know what I mean? Going into public withprivate emails? As you know I do never avoid a question. I mean suppression. I read your question with the unavoidable Holocaust analogy. This is scandalous with how little care you use this tool. But let me analyse. If I received Now out of the blue such propaganda in private email I would ignore it. You will understand below why. If however I were someone who was deeply involved into that unthinkable evil I would be concerned. I knew that someone had foundout my involvement. If however I had posted into usenet or CTF continual denials of the Holocaust, me as a German [of course I would never do this], and if I then received such material, it would also concern me. But I tellyou something, Ed, I had more class than Bruce. I wouldn't be so stupic and running into CCC [or comparable institutions] just to whine about the privately received emails. It's a typical zwick. Either you judge it is spam or not. If not I would correspond with the sender. Because he had a reason for his message. Perhaps a general concern, more probable, my messages in [a comparable] CTF. The concern here with Chrilly is openly clear. It's the same what you write into CTF all day long. But to cut all communication, taking offense and calling wolf in CCC is surely not the best Bruce could have done. With his publishing of main parts of private email Bruce crossed the border to indecent behaviour. He could have had only a single reason to go into public. And exactly this reason was just now disclaimed by Bruce. If it would have been blackmailed death threat. Only then. But it wasn't. It was political art and propaganda. Sometimes a basic education in logical reasoning is better than studies in psychology, Ed. :) Best, Rolf > >My best, > >Ed > > > >>To even insinuate that exactly Bruce is here the personally and emotionally >>involved and NOT Chrilly, this is insultive to human logic and ethics. Chrilly >>wrote these emails in emotional shock about these war massacres. Bruce is just >>claiming being "responsible [sic!!!]" for the dead USA soldiers. Incredible >>nonsense. >> >>Best, >>Rolf >> >> >> >>> >>>Ed >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>The dead soldiers are victims, more so the Iraqi civilians. BTW killed by USA troops >>>>Bruce is supporting. Why couldn't it be sensible to attack Bruce for this >>>>support? With the killed civilians in mind. I hope you see that Bruce is a >>>>supporter. So why dealing with your administration? This is left to your people. >>>>Dr. Donninger dealt with a friend of the programmer group. "Fine" reaction to go >>>>into public with it from Bruce's side. Sure. USA begins an illegal war against >>>>the declared will of the UN. But Bruce and you too complains about these private >>>>emails. That is hilarious. If it were not so sad. >>>> >>>>Let's see if you can further improve your arguments.
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