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Subject: Re: List5.04(3 minutes)-Fritz8(1 minute) 11.5-8.5 in the nunn1 match

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:47:31 04/04/03

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On April 04, 2003 at 10:43:54, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 04, 2003 at 10:13:19, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On April 04, 2003 at 09:10:22, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>Fritz8 lost on time 2 games(one in a drawn position and one in a won position)
>>>but time is part of the game.
>>>
>>>games were played on A1000(16 mbytes hash tables for every engine)
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I wonder how bad Fritz 8 will beat List 5.04 if you allow 2 minutes to Fritz 8
>>instead?
>>
>>Jorge
>
>I do not know
>You can try to play a match of 2 minutes for Fritz against 3 minutes for list.
>
>I guess that it may beat List 12-8 in the nunnI match.
>
>I also wonder if Fritz performs better in the nunnI match or in my special match
>(40 games from all the possible positions after 1 ply).
>
>I saw a lot of cases when Fritz disagreed with the opponent about evaluation.
>It happened also in the match against Tao5.4 when Fritz8 beated Tao5.4 15-5
>
>For some reason my feeling is that the nunnI match give relatively more
>positions when programs disagree about the evaluation(difference of more than 1
>pawn between the evaluation of the programs).
>
>Fritz8 seems to be a positional monster at least in the nunnI match
>
>examples
>
>[D]3r3k/4q2p/5p2/3p1Q2/R7/3Bb1P1/7P/7K b - - 0 39

This is not position.  This is tactics.  Crafty comes up with 0.00 very quickly,
but
not positionally.  It is a repetition.


>
>Fritz 0.00 list advantage of more than +1 for black
>
>[D]8/5k1p/8/8/P1R5/3pp1bP/8/3K4 w - - 0 49
>
>Fritz
>
>more than +1 for white

Tactics again.  Takes 16 plies for Crafty to see past a perpetual and fail high
on
Re4 to +1.0


>List:position almost equal
>
>[D]r2qb2k/1n3pp1/r6p/p2NP3/2pPB3/1pP2Q2/1BP3PP/5RK1 b - - 0 33
>
>Fritz more than +1 for white

This is also tactics.  The other two crafty found very quickly.  This takes
about 45 seconds
before it sees black is in trouble, at depth=12, score = +1.

>List more than +1 for black.
>
>
>Uri



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