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Subject: Re: Here's some Shock for all of You: It's Art!

Author: Peter Skinner

Date: 06:09:36 04/05/03

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>And you can't be a natural Canadian because your English sucks. I never said
>that the pictures alone were art. I can't help you if you are too bad in either
>reading or thinking.
>
>I said that pictures in combination with the sub-lines added, that this is
>potentially[because I never saw the originals, but I saw the pictures seperately
>from the text of the added lines] in this case here political art, propaganda.
>Period.

Rolf,

Just the implication that the pictures that were posted by the Iraqi news
agencies broke the Geneva Convention would de-classify as them as any
political-art, or even propaganda.

I have looked up some information for you, as you seem to fail to see how these
pictures were not only very wrong, but certainly disgusting:

"Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War
Adopted on 12 August 1949 by the Diplomatic Conference for the Establishment of
International Conventions for the Protection of Victims of War, held in Geneva
from 21 April to 12 August, 1949
entry into force 21 October 1950

In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the
territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each party to the conflict
shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:

1. Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed
forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by
sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be
treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour,
religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and
in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:

(a) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation,
cruel treatment and torture;

(b) Taking of hostages;

(c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading
treatment;"

Please note the last one. Even in death, humiliating and degrading treatment
applies. You can not post pictures of the dead to the public as a show of
victory. It shows a lack of respect to the family of the victims, and to the
country that they came from. Also a lack of respect for the dead individual as
well.

"Article 13

Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely treated. Any unlawful act or
omission by the Detaining Power causing death or seriously endangering the
health of a prisoner of war in its custody is prohibited, and will be regarded
as a serious breach of the present Convention. In particular, no prisoner of war
may be subjected to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments
of any kind which are not justified by the medical, dental or hospital treatment
of the prisoner concerned and carried out in his interest.

Likewise, prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against
acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity."

Again, posting the pictures even to satisfy public out curiosity is against the
convention.

Do you understand why the convention was created? Do you understand why it is so
important?

If you can not understand this, then it is I that can not help you.

If you want to further read so that you can possibly understand the serious
issues with those pictures, please look here:

http://193.194.138.190/html/menu3/b/91.htm




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