Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 17:13:25 04/06/03
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On April 06, 2003 at 13:43:22, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>On April 06, 2003 at 03:29:13, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>I didn't suggest suing anybody. I suggested inquiring as to whether the actions
>>of his sender constitute a crime in Washington State (where Bruce lives).
>
>I took an out of state check for $473. It bounced, after I had shipped
>merchandise.
>
>I am having a devil of a time convincing anyone to care. The local cops won't
>do anything, because it's out of state. The FBI won't do anything because the
>total loss is under $20,000. I am going to have to try to find the other guy's
>local cops and deal with that. I am not optimistic.
>
>In another case, someone attempted to steal $330 from me. He sent me some
>merchandise I paid for, and when it was not as described, I received permission
>to send it back, and I sent it back. He did not refund my money, and instead
>made numerous excuses ("I mailed it yesterday", etc), for about a month. I
>called my local cops. They told me to call his local cops. His local cops told
>me to call my local cops. Postal authorities told me they could do nothing,
>since he shipped me *something*. When the cops weren't telling me to call other
>cops, they told me to sue him, since it was a civil matter.
>
>Eventually, through some incredible miracle, he paid me. Of course, later on he
>tried to claim fraud against me in order to reverse the charge, but that has
>nothing to do with the police.
>
>You can do anything you want and get away with it, because the cops and the
>courts don't care, and the lawyers are paid up front and promise nothing.
>
>If I were to tell the local cops that I wanted them to do something about an
>Austrian who said something rude, they would listen as long as it amused them,
>and then they would get rid of me and forget about it. If I called Austria, at
>huge expense I am sure, they would probably tell me that the war is illegal,
>what is my problem?
>
>>Anyway, it's all irrelevant -- Bruce doesn't seem to be as annoyed as I
>>initially thought he was.
>
>I am quite annoyed. I am also very realistic about what to expect when I deal
>with the legal system.
>
>And as I have said in another post, this does not need solving via the legal
>system anyway.
>
>bruce
You are on your way of reconvalescense by now. Good luck!
But back to some points of interest. No need to answer me, Bruce. I make it for
the public. To me this is incredible. There is a fellow programmer in your field
of computerchess and there is an illegal war initiated by the USA against the
declared will of the majority of States in the Security Council of the UN and
also the UN itself. This war goes for illegal targets and goals. Mainly to the
economical profit of the USA again - what a surprise! Someone opposed the view
of the USA being imperialistic. Funny. The USA is the biggest colonialist of the
World. All economically of course. People are so uneducated that they don't
understand why. Because when they build up a system somewhere, that means
economical linkage to the USA. The rebuild of a destroyed country is
economically one of the most profitable action.
Further. Dr. Donninger sees this war, in combination with the murdering of
civilians, as illegal, atrocious and inhuman. He sees the USA and its soldiers
as responsible. That is basically what he says in his political art propaganda.
He sent PRIVATE email to his fellow programmers in the States. One was Bruce
Moreland. Perhaps he had hope of some explanations. I am not Dr. Donninger, so I
can't know his exact motivation. But what is wrong with his emails??
I read that you were responsible for the dead US soldiers. It is true that you
support this war. Perhaps he read that in CTF from your side. What is the
problem? You don't want to go to Graz. Well, I don't see the logic but then you
don't go. What is the problem. Or was it all about a character assassination of
Dr. Donninger? I read about sueing, court cases. Now I read that you are not
interested in the legal system and a legal solution. What does that mean? Do you
seek an illegal solution?
Someone said you were not annoyed probably. You say that you are very annoyed.
What is your problem?
Is it that a fellow programmer dared to write in private email that you should
care about your soldiers in Iraq? Of course you should because how could you be
PRO war, illegal war, when innocent people are killed on market places? Are you
really supporting such crimes? If not, why PRO war, because pro war means murder
in market places? QED.
I see no honest reason for you not to go to Graz. Neither a reason why Donninger
should not have written PRIVATE email to you.
Is communication a criminal act in your eyes, that forces you to go into protest
mode, also into public, and making public private emails?
Again my 100 000 000 000 $$ question:
What is worse - an ugly postcard you got or thousands of killed on marketplaces
etc.?
Best,
Rolf
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