Author: Uri Blass
Date: 14:41:42 04/07/03
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On April 07, 2003 at 16:53:51, Keith Evans wrote: >On April 07, 2003 at 13:16:23, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On April 07, 2003 at 12:58:40, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >> >>>On April 07, 2003 at 09:56:54, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>Suppose that a programmer of a good program decides to sell his(her) engine only >>>>as a winboard engine(it can run under Fritz in these conditions) >>>> >>>>I am interested in your estimate for the following questions >>>> >>>>How much money (s)he can get from it in the following cases: >>>> >>>>1)The program is at similiar level to Crafty >>>>2)The program is at similiar level to Ruffian >>>>3)The program is at similiar level to Fritz8 >>>>4)The program is 100 elo better than Fritz8 >>>> >>>>I thought that the programmers of the top amateur(crafty level that are not >>>>clones of other programs) are probably rich people thanks to the fact that they >>>>are good programmers so they do not care if they can make more 100$ per month >>>>from their program but it seems that I was wrong based on the following post >>>>when the author of smarthink claims that he earns only 100$ per month: >>>> >>>>http://f11.parsimony.net/forum16635/messages/46347.htm >>>> >>>>Another possibility is that I am wrong in my guess that he can make money by >>>>selling his program. >>>> >>>>More questions: >>>> >>>>suppose for the discussion that a programmer decides to earn 10$ per copy that >>>>(s)he sells. >>>>Suppose that the programmer expects to sell 120 copies per year. >>>> >>>>What should be the price of the program? >>>> >>>>Is the price significantly higher relative to the case that he expects to sell >>>>1200 or 12000 copies per year? >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Hi, >>> >>>the price make the programmer. >>>And if we have an engine with 2000 ELO for 49 US Dollar is this OK for me. >>> >>>But the most amateur chess programmers have fun on this hobby and don't think >>>about money. >> >>There is no contradiction between fun and money. >>The fact that you have fun does not mean that you need to have objection to >>making money. >> > >Would you continue to work on your program if you determined that there is no >money to be made from it? > >I think that some people here have the impression that you would not, which >might be an erroneous impression. I do not know. In that case I may also consider to leave chess programming and start a go chess program. The problem is that I do not know go so chess programming is more interesting for me. I also do not see a situation in the near future when I can be sure that there is no money. I can also say that I do not write a lot of code but mainly looking at games of the program and think how to evaluate things. The way of vincent who has a big evaluation seems to me to hurry to write things and more things and I prefer to try to get ideas how to write productive things without a lot of code. I thought mainly about the evaluation of pawn structure and pawns relative to the king in the last weeks and I did nothing about the search but I guess that after I will be satisfied with that evaluation then I am going to improve my search again. There are a lot of ideas that I never tried because thinking more than implementing things is my hobby. This is also the reason that I learned mathematics and not computers at university. Uri
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