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Subject: Re: I have two friends who use Xeons as keychains.

Author: Charles Worthington

Date: 22:03:21 04/07/03

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On April 08, 2003 at 00:59:57, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On April 08, 2003 at 00:55:43, Charles Worthington wrote:
>
>>On April 08, 2003 at 00:36:12, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On April 07, 2003 at 18:44:30, Charles Worthington wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 07, 2003 at 18:36:11, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Everyone already knows the Athlon is a numerical powerhouse and the Xeon was
>>>>>designed to demux HDTV streams for my grandmother, so there is really no need to
>>>>>'show you the speed'.  If you just can't understand the obvious, you should
>>>>>build yourself a *real* computer.  Technology moves fast, and you are already
>>>>>being left behind.
>>>>>
>>>>>anthony
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps, but that is still talk...I just want someone to come to the server and
>>>>enlighten us all as to the error of our ways but it seems that no one is willing
>>>>to come show us a real machine. Why could that be do you think? Could it be
>>>>because you know you cannot post a faster speed? I can show you deep fritz 7
>>>>screenshots as high as 5777kN/s in endgames with 2500-2900kN/s averages in
>>>>midgames. Lets both run a deepfritzmark and post the result here to compare.
>>>>That is a relatively simple way to show me what a real machine can do. I think
>>>>that is a reasonable request. I just want to see which machine I should be
>>>>playing chess with...
>>>
>>>At world champs 2002 chessbase showed up with AMD hardware. Guess why.
>>>
>>>Other champs they take what the sponsor gives them.
>>>
>>>I want to bet that the prescott is not released end of 2003. means that they
>>>will show up with dual AMD, because you can't clock the Xeon higher in 0.13 than
>>>it is now (3.06Ghz is limit simply as it consumes 105 watt there). Period.
>>>
>>>So the K7 which still can get clocked higher still than it is now till it also
>>>consumes around 100 watts, will get faster and faster till that time. It's
>>>already faster now.
>>>
>>>It's a matter of what the sponsor gives simply!
>>
>>Actually Matthias Feist Used his own Dual 2.8 Xeon for fritz at the latest
>>padderborn tournament. Call him on the phone and ask him why he did so....I did.
>>He did not use a machine supplied by a sponsor. he used his own personal
>>machine....and won the tournament.
>>
>>Charles
>
>Actually i played df7 there for like 6 hours. regrettably it came away with a
>draw against DIEP (yet again). diep managed to conquer a pawn after quite a
>while but to no avail.
>
>i asked him why he didn't run on a dual K7.
>
>answer: "sponsor gave this machine"
>
>i aske dhim whether he had tested whether 2 threads with SMT turned off were
>giving bigger search depth than 4 threads with SMT turned on. He told me he
>hadn't tested it at all. That's why he used 4 threads.
>
>That's why stefan who had tested it, played with SMT turned off and played dual
>Xeon 2.8.
>
>if you have a sponsor like they have, you always go for the machine the sponsor
>provide. the alternative is buying a dual K7, and that's quite a bit more
>expensive than using that provided machine...
>
>I got home. quoted for first position out of book fritz had against me what
>speed it there had and some people who sometimes post here too, had a much
>faster fritz at their dual K7.
>
>Best regards,
>Vincent

A friend and i just took dual screenshots on the chessbase server she is in the
process of posting them here....Look at those and please show me a faster nP/s
screenshot from the dual k7....
Charles



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