Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 22:12:06 04/07/03
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what i don't understand is that i test at production machines and speed is clearly in favour for the K7 in diep's case. frans morsch, creator of fritz, whom i regurarly email with finds the K7 also hell of a processor. he's looking forward to the prescott though but that will be 2004+. i'm looking forward to the itanic of AMD called Hammer but if they delay it until 2004 it is not anymore a hammer but more like a slow pencil. if it's released tomorrow then that will kick butt of course. basically hardware speed for DUALS is very clear. K7 XP wins there. 2 times CHEAPER. and a bit faster too. secondly. with regard to quad and 8 processor boxes. We speak then about $100k machines. starting at like $20k for the quads. there of course the 4 processor opteron will blow away everything. opteron gets released within a few weeks. so if you want to make a bit of money. buy some AMD stocks within a week (right after bagdad is under 'control') and sell them 2 weeks after they revealed quad opteron boxes. On April 08, 2003 at 01:03:21, Charles Worthington wrote: >On April 08, 2003 at 00:59:57, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On April 08, 2003 at 00:55:43, Charles Worthington wrote: >> >>>On April 08, 2003 at 00:36:12, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On April 07, 2003 at 18:44:30, Charles Worthington wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 07, 2003 at 18:36:11, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Everyone already knows the Athlon is a numerical powerhouse and the Xeon was >>>>>>designed to demux HDTV streams for my grandmother, so there is really no need to >>>>>>'show you the speed'. If you just can't understand the obvious, you should >>>>>>build yourself a *real* computer. Technology moves fast, and you are already >>>>>>being left behind. >>>>>> >>>>>>anthony >>>>> >>>>>Perhaps, but that is still talk...I just want someone to come to the server and >>>>>enlighten us all as to the error of our ways but it seems that no one is willing >>>>>to come show us a real machine. Why could that be do you think? Could it be >>>>>because you know you cannot post a faster speed? I can show you deep fritz 7 >>>>>screenshots as high as 5777kN/s in endgames with 2500-2900kN/s averages in >>>>>midgames. Lets both run a deepfritzmark and post the result here to compare. >>>>>That is a relatively simple way to show me what a real machine can do. I think >>>>>that is a reasonable request. I just want to see which machine I should be >>>>>playing chess with... >>>> >>>>At world champs 2002 chessbase showed up with AMD hardware. Guess why. >>>> >>>>Other champs they take what the sponsor gives them. >>>> >>>>I want to bet that the prescott is not released end of 2003. means that they >>>>will show up with dual AMD, because you can't clock the Xeon higher in 0.13 than >>>>it is now (3.06Ghz is limit simply as it consumes 105 watt there). Period. >>>> >>>>So the K7 which still can get clocked higher still than it is now till it also >>>>consumes around 100 watts, will get faster and faster till that time. It's >>>>already faster now. >>>> >>>>It's a matter of what the sponsor gives simply! >>> >>>Actually Matthias Feist Used his own Dual 2.8 Xeon for fritz at the latest >>>padderborn tournament. Call him on the phone and ask him why he did so....I did. >>>He did not use a machine supplied by a sponsor. he used his own personal >>>machine....and won the tournament. >>> >>>Charles >> >>Actually i played df7 there for like 6 hours. regrettably it came away with a >>draw against DIEP (yet again). diep managed to conquer a pawn after quite a >>while but to no avail. >> >>i asked him why he didn't run on a dual K7. >> >>answer: "sponsor gave this machine" >> >>i aske dhim whether he had tested whether 2 threads with SMT turned off were >>giving bigger search depth than 4 threads with SMT turned on. He told me he >>hadn't tested it at all. That's why he used 4 threads. >> >>That's why stefan who had tested it, played with SMT turned off and played dual >>Xeon 2.8. >> >>if you have a sponsor like they have, you always go for the machine the sponsor >>provide. the alternative is buying a dual K7, and that's quite a bit more >>expensive than using that provided machine... >> >>I got home. quoted for first position out of book fritz had against me what >>speed it there had and some people who sometimes post here too, had a much >>faster fritz at their dual K7. >> >>Best regards, >>Vincent > >A friend and i just took dual screenshots on the chessbase server she is in the >process of posting them here....Look at those and please show me a faster nP/s >screenshot from the dual k7.... >Charles
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