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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger 15 in the Chessbase (Fritz) GUI

Author: Chris

Date: 02:49:03 04/08/03

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On April 07, 2003 at 21:28:25, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On April 07, 2003 at 04:08:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On April 07, 2003 at 00:41:40, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On April 06, 2003 at 22:13:02, Jim Bond wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 06, 2003 at 21:22:08, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>As some were wondering I think it's important to clarify.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's not an April joke.
>>>>>
>>>>>Chess Tiger 15 is now available in the Chessbase (Fritz) Graphical User
>>>>>Interface.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have no idea why it is not announced on the Chessbase site right now, but it
>>>>>will certainly be very soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>In short: yeah that stuff is real, everybody has asked for it and now you can
>>>>>have it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Enjoy!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>
>>>>Hi Christophe,
>>>>
>>>>I have been a fan of yours in Canada and would like to know if the new Chess
>>>>Tiger 15 in Chessbase GUI have the same strength as the Lokasoft version.
>>>>
>>>>I have been playing Rebel XP Beta1 against Fritz 8 on two PCs and have been
>>>>quite impressed with it (aside from some auto232 issues).  The preliminary
>>>>results are the engines are pretty evenly matched.  Beta1 had put up some good
>>>>fights exhibiting some good knowledge on King side attacks where Fritz 8 did not
>>>>see them.  Would you say the new Chessbase Chess Tiger 15 is much stronger than
>>>>Rebel XP Beta 1?
>>>>
>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thank you Jim.
>>>
>>>The Chessbase version of Chess Tiger 15 has exactly the same engine as the
>>>Lokasoft version.
>>>
>>>I do not know how CT15 compares to Rebel XP beta 1.
>>>
>>>Chess Tiger 15 is rated by the SSDF in third position, below Fritz 8 and
>>>Shredder 7, however it is rated second to Fritz 8 (by a narrow margin) on
>>>Chessfun's list, and I think this list should be taken seriously.
>>>
>>>I don't know if they (SSDF and Chessfun) will test the Chessbase version of
>>>Chess Tiger 15, but I think it would be an interesting test. The Chessbase GUI
>>>can have an impact on the playing strength, in particular because of its book
>>>learning algorithm which is maybe superior to the one implemented in the engine
>>>itself, and which is used by the Lokasoft GUI by default.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>There were some monthes from the release of Tiger15
>>
>>Did you continue to work on a better engine?
>>
>>If you did then what is the reason that you do not sell
>>Tiger15.xx for chessbase?
>>
>>possible reasons:
>>1)Failure to improve Tiger15
>>2)Your special methods to test for improvement are not so good so you are afraid
>>that 15.xx is weaker.
>>3)Deciding to rewrite the engine from scratch for a better design.
>>4)You are afraid that releasing a new version will help your opponents in the
>>world computer championship in November and this tournament is important because
>>the winner may win a match against the human world champion.
>>5)Another reason that I do not think about.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>
>:) :) :)
>
>
>You should write Sci-Fi books! :)
>
>
>
>    Christophe


Well, what is the answer to the question - why not release a stronger Tiger
15.xx for ChessBase?


Christian




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