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Subject: Re: Latest Fide ratings with computers

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 06:48:21 04/08/03

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On April 08, 2003 at 09:12:05, Jouni Uski wrote:

>I included Carson's ratings to latest Fide with interesting result :-)
>
>1   DEEP BLUE 97....................  2862
>2   DEEP JUNIOR X...................  2847
>3   Kasparov, Gary..................  2830
>4   DEEP FRITZ 8....................  2807
>5   Kramnik, Vladimir...............  2789
>6   Anand, Viswanathan..............  2764
>7   Leko, Peter.....................  2746
>8   Shirov, Alexei..................  2735
>9   Topalov, Veselin................  2735
>10  Bareev, Evgeny..................  2734
>
>Please no comments about different rating pools - all ratings are FIDE and
>from same pool!
>
>Jouni

Nice observation and may generate some discussion.  Enjoy the posts.  :)

Some observations:

Arguments against the comp ratings.
1.  The comps do not have enough games to establish a rating.
2.  The comps listed only played against one opponent under match conditions.

Arguments that favor the comps.
3.  In tournament conditions (human v human and human v comp) the comps score
    about 100 points higher since the human does not prepare just for the comp.
4.  The comps in this list only played the top 2 GM's, against lower rated GM's
    (match or tournament) the comp ratings would increase.

In my opinion, the above ratings for the comps reflect the performance to be
expected for match play when the Top Human GM has months to prepare and plan for
the comps (DF and DJ anyway, not DB).  The true ratings for the comps would be
at least 100 to 200 points higher if they could play in FIDE tournaments.

There will be a few FIDE FM's, IM's and GM's that will play well against the
comps, however, these games will be few and most FM's, IM's and GM's will get
clobbered by the comps in a tournament environment when the comps are on 2Ghz
and faster machines (fastest duals and singles procs with Rebel, Fritz, Junior,
Shredder, Hiarcs, Chess Tiger, Gandalf and ChessMaster) would take the top 8
places in most GM tournaments.  Perhaps Ruffian and others could be added to the
list.

Just my take.  :)



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