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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger 15 in the Chessbase (Fritz) GUI

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 17:17:26 04/08/03

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On April 08, 2003 at 16:32:18, Marc van Hal wrote:

>On April 07, 2003 at 21:28:25, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On April 07, 2003 at 04:08:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 07, 2003 at 00:41:40, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 06, 2003 at 22:13:02, Jim Bond wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 06, 2003 at 21:22:08, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>As some were wondering I think it's important to clarify.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's not an April joke.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chess Tiger 15 is now available in the Chessbase (Fritz) Graphical User
>>>>>>Interface.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have no idea why it is not announced on the Chessbase site right now, but it
>>>>>>will certainly be very soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In short: yeah that stuff is real, everybody has asked for it and now you can
>>>>>>have it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Enjoy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Christophe,
>>>>>
>>>>>I have been a fan of yours in Canada and would like to know if the new Chess
>>>>>Tiger 15 in Chessbase GUI have the same strength as the Lokasoft version.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have been playing Rebel XP Beta1 against Fritz 8 on two PCs and have been
>>>>>quite impressed with it (aside from some auto232 issues).  The preliminary
>>>>>results are the engines are pretty evenly matched.  Beta1 had put up some good
>>>>>fights exhibiting some good knowledge on King side attacks where Fritz 8 did not
>>>>>see them.  Would you say the new Chessbase Chess Tiger 15 is much stronger than
>>>>>Rebel XP Beta 1?
>>>>>
>>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thank you Jim.
>>>>
>>>>The Chessbase version of Chess Tiger 15 has exactly the same engine as the
>>>>Lokasoft version.
>>>>
>>>>I do not know how CT15 compares to Rebel XP beta 1.
>>>>
>>>>Chess Tiger 15 is rated by the SSDF in third position, below Fritz 8 and
>>>>Shredder 7, however it is rated second to Fritz 8 (by a narrow margin) on
>>>>Chessfun's list, and I think this list should be taken seriously.
>>>>
>>>>I don't know if they (SSDF and Chessfun) will test the Chessbase version of
>>>>Chess Tiger 15, but I think it would be an interesting test. The Chessbase GUI
>>>>can have an impact on the playing strength, in particular because of its book
>>>>learning algorithm which is maybe superior to the one implemented in the engine
>>>>itself, and which is used by the Lokasoft GUI by default.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>There were some monthes from the release of Tiger15
>>>
>>>Did you continue to work on a better engine?
>>>
>>>If you did then what is the reason that you do not sell
>>>Tiger15.xx for chessbase?
>>>
>>>possible reasons:
>>>1)Failure to improve Tiger15
>>>2)Your special methods to test for improvement are not so good so you are afraid
>>>that 15.xx is weaker.
>>>3)Deciding to rewrite the engine from scratch for a better design.
>>>4)You are afraid that releasing a new version will help your opponents in the
>>>world computer championship in November and this tournament is important because
>>>the winner may win a match against the human world champion.
>>>5)Another reason that I do not think about.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>
>>:) :) :)
>>
>>
>>You should write Sci-Fi books! :)
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>Talking about books which kind of tournaments where used for the book?



I do not know exactly. I think you should ask them.




>And for a comming release it might be intresting for you and the end users when
>the personaleties can be defined.
>You never know where they will come up with!



Yes, you are right. That's something that is on my to-do list, but strength
improvements have always had a greater priority for me, so the personalities are
still waiting.

The funny part of it is that the Chess Tiger API has a number of parameters
dedicated to configuring the personalities, but these parameters are not used by
the engine yet!



    Christophe



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