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Subject: Re: perpetual check

Author: John Merlino

Date: 17:50:56 04/08/03

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On April 08, 2003 at 19:30:24, Robin Smith wrote:

>The following position is a rather trivial (for a human) perpetual check.  Why
>does it take some programs so long to see it?  Many of today's top programs
>think White is winning, and after long searches too!  Which program detects
>perpetual and returns a draw score the fastest?
>
>Tiviakov,S - Tseshkovsky,V
>Kropotkin, 1995
>[D] 6k1/7p/4Q1p1/3pP1P1/p6q/Pp1r2R1/1P5P/7K b - - 0 1
>
>Robin

Chessmaster 9000, on a relatively humble P3-750, needs 1:42 to return a draw
score:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	6.39	1863		1...Kh8 2.Qf6+ Kg8 3.Qd8+ Kg7 4.Qe7+
					Kg8 5.Rxd3 Qe1+ 6.Kg2
0:00	1/4	6.24	7180		1...Kh8 2.Qf6+ Kg8 3.Qd8+ Kf7 4.Qd7+
					Kf8 5.Qd6+ Kg8 6.Rxd3 Qe1+ 7.Kg2
0:00	1/5	6.12	21210		1...Kh8 2.Qf6+ Kg8 3.Qd8+ Kg7 4.Qd7+
					Kh8 5.Qc8+ Kg7 6.Qc7+ Kg8 7.Qb8+
					Kf7 8.Rxd3 Qe1+ 9.Kg2
0:00	1/6	6.10	57710		1...Kh8 2.Qf6+ Kg8 3.Qd8+ Kg7 4.Qd7+
					Kh8 5.Qc8+ Kg7 6.Qc7+ Kh8 7.Qb8+
					Kg7 8.Qa7+ Kg8 9.Qa8+ Kf7 10.Rxd3
					Qe1+ 11.Kg2
0:00	1/6	5.42	91520		1...Kf8 2.Qf6+ Ke8 3.Qc6+ Kd8 4.Qd6+
					Ke8 5.Qb8+ Kd7 6.Qb5+ Ke6 7.Qe8+
					Kf5 8.Rxd3 Kxg5
0:01	1/7	5.37	144298		1...Kf8 2.Qf6+ Ke8 3.Qc6+ Kd8 4.Qb6+
					Kd7 5.e6+ Ke7 6.Qb7+ Kxe6 7.Qc6+
					Kf7 8.Qf6+ Kg8 9.Rxd3
0:02	1/8	5.23	272956		1...Kf8 2.Qf6+ Ke8 3.Qc6+ Ke7 4.Qb7+
					Ke6 5.Qb6+ Kxe5 6.Qf6+ Ke4 7.Qe7+
					Kf5 8.Qd7+ Ke5 9.Qe8+ Kd6 10.Rxd3
					Qxg5 11.Qxa4
0:05	1/8	2.11	634874		1...Kh8 2.Qf6+ Kg8 3.Qd8+ Kg7 4.Qc7+
					Kh8 5.Qb8+ Kg7 6.Qa7+ Kf8 7.Qc5+
					Kg7 8.Rxd3 Qe4+ 9.Kg1 Qe1+ 10.Kg2
					Qe2+ 11.Qf2 Qxd3
0:09	2/9	1.65	1094538		1...Kh8 2.Qf6+ Kg8 3.Qd8+ Kg7 4.Qc7+
					Kh8 5.Qb8+ Kg7 6.Qa7+ Kg8 7.Qa8+
					Kg7 8.Qb7+ Kg8 9.Rxd3 Qe4+ 10.Kg1
					Qe1+ 11.Kg2 Qe2+ 12.Kg3 Qxd3+ 13.Kh4
0:15	3/10	1.70	1723117		1...Kh8 2.Qf6+ Kg8 3.Qd8+ Kg7 4.Qc7+
					Kh8 5.Qb8+ Kg7 6.Qa7+ Kf8 7.Rxd3
					Qe4+ 8.Kg1 Qxd3 9.Qb8+ Kf7 10.Qc7+
					Ke8 11.Qc8+ Ke7 12.e6
0:39	4/11	0.73	4336967		1...Kh8 2.Qf6+ Kg8 3.Rxd3 Qe1+
					4.Kg2 Qe2+ 5.Kg1 Qxd3 6.Qd8+ Kg7
					7.Qc7+ Kf8 8.Qc8+ Ke7 9.Qc5+ Kf7
					10.Qf2+ Ke8 11.e6 Qb1+ 12.Kg2
1:42	5/12	0.00	10638946	1...Kh8 2.Qf6+ Kg8 3.Rxd3 Qe1+
					4.Kg2 Qe2+ 5.Kg1 Qxd3 6.Qd8+ Kg7
					7.Qc7+ Kf8 8.Qc8+ Ke7 9.Qc5+ Kf7
					10.Qc7+ Kf8

jm



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