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Subject: Re: some questions about chess programs and money

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 04:16:17 04/09/03

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On April 08, 2003 at 19:57:47, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 08, 2003 at 19:43:26, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On April 08, 2003 at 02:32:48, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>Most people still kick on fritz because of its high node counts but they are not
>>aware that other programs outsearch it bigtime, where it is clear that their
>>marketing slogan was 'learning by search' is completely outdated because of
>>that.
>
>No
>
>In this case they could stop buy Fritz because Fritz searched more nodes per
>second in the past.
>
>ruffian is a fast searcher relative to Fritz.
>
>You always believed in evaluation and not in search.
>I wonder what happened to your opinion.

DIEP focuses upon evaluation, nothing is changed there. An extra ply doesn't
matter as much as a better eval. Always said that. And guessing that my opinion
would change there is a complete nonsense thing of course.

Yet it is clear that when diep releasedate 1 august 2003 with a 10 ply search
plays against diep release date 1 august 2003 with a 14 ply search, that the
latter makes a bigger chance.

In short, what happened to chessbase slogan: Learn through search?

Others outsearch it and diep as well as many others have a bigger eval (from
which brutus is most clear example at the moment. Shredder is not having
mobility so it sucks in that respect but has more positional knowledge i assume.


>Uri



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