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Subject: Re: Relax Mr. Worthington, I'm only joking ;)

Author: Charles Worthington

Date: 09:29:46 04/09/03

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On April 09, 2003 at 11:11:49, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On April 09, 2003 at 07:52:52, Pavel Blokhine wrote:
>
>>On April 09, 2003 at 07:36:31, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>>
>>>On April 09, 2003 at 04:20:05, Pavel Blokhine wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 08, 2003 at 23:33:28, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 08, 2003 at 12:00:58, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I believe you.  I just thought it was a fun prank to pull.  Athlon's don't have
>>>>>>hyperthreading, nor can anyone get them to run at 2.9GHZ.  I do think the athlon
>>>>>>is a superior processor, though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anthony
>>>>>
>>>>>I've got a friend that runs 3.1GHz with freon (Prometeia). There are also people
>>>>>who get 3.0-3.4GHz with Dry Ice and Liquid Nitrogen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I hope you will all forgive my ignorance on the subject, but what the hell is K7
>>>>XP? What kind of computer is that?
>>>
>>>K7 is AMD's 7th Generation class of CPU. It's just an Athlon, so K7 XP means
>>>Athlon XP.
>>
>>
>>Ok thanks. But how is it supposed to be faster than a dual Xeon 2.8 Ghz?
>
>The Athlon is faster because it does more work per clock cycle. Imagine someone
>50 feet tall making 1 foot step every second. Now imagine a midget taking 10
>steps per second.. who would cover more ground? The 50 foot person of course.
>The other person is taking 10 steps per second vs 1 step per second. Same thing
>applies with processors. 2.8GHz doesn't mean you're going to be faster than
>2.1GHz.
>
>An AthlonXP 2200+ (1.8GHz) is about the speed of a P4-2.8GHz in chess, sometimes
>faster. An AthlonXP 2600+/266 is 2.13GHz, so I'm not sure where Charles is
>coming up with his numbers. He mainly spouts garbage from Playchess, which
>honestly means absolutely nothing. The games are all different, the positions
>are different so there is no "controlled" test to see which is faster.
>
>He was stating he gets 5 million some-odd nodes/second spikes, sure, anyone can
>do that. Try running it for more than 1 second though. I could fire up Goliath
>Light v1.5 and get something on the order of 7-8 million node/second spikes. Big
>deal. Run a real test. I've done the controlled tests, AthlonXP's are faster by
>far. Plain and simple.

Actually the numbers I gave him were from controlled tests. Both were fritzmark
tests running fritz 8 with 64 MB hash in identical positions.
Charles



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