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Subject: Re: perpetual check

Author: Peter McKenzie

Date: 11:00:02 04/09/03

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On April 08, 2003 at 19:30:24, Robin Smith wrote:

>The following position is a rather trivial (for a human) perpetual check.  Why
>does it take some programs so long to see it?  Many of today's top programs
>think White is winning, and after long searches too!  Which program detects
>perpetual and returns a draw score the fastest?
>
>Tiviakov,S - Tseshkovsky,V
>Kropotkin, 1995
>[D] 6k1/7p/4Q1p1/3pP1P1/p6q/Pp1r2R1/1P5P/7K b - - 0 1
>
>Robin

Hmmm, my program gives a 'white is winning score' after quite a long search
(15+ply).  I'm not sure if I have a bug, or if I'm encountering a similar
problem to others.

The problem here is that white can do a whole bunch of checks and then grab the
rook near the tip of the tree.  If there isn't much search depth left then the
program won't see that black can at least win the rook on d3.

Perhaps there are hashing issues at play here?  Maybe Q-search issues too...



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