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Subject: Re: To Michael Drexel

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 12:41:33 04/09/03

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On April 09, 2003 at 15:32:58, Charles Worthington wrote:

>On April 09, 2003 at 14:28:03, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On April 09, 2003 at 11:52:48, Charles Worthington wrote:
>>
>>>I ran the Deepfritzmark and Shreddermark tests with hyperthreading disabled then
>>>enabled with some very confusing results that I am hoping someone can help
>>>explain:
>>>
>>>Test set #1 Hyperthreading Disabled, 64MB Hash, Engine Parameters @ default
>>>
>>>Shredder 7.04:  Shreddermark: 2227 +- 0 (1.5s) 705kN/s
>>>
>>>Deep Fritz 7 :  Deepfritzmark: 2724 +- 44 (3.1s)  2252kN/s
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Test set #2 Hyperthreading Enabled, 64MB Hash, Engine Parameters @ Default
>>>
>>>Shredder 7.04:  Shreddermark: 2227 +- 0 (1.5s) 803kN/s
>>>
>>>Deep Fritz 7 :  Deepfritzmark: 2476 +- 0 (3.2s) 2555kN/s
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Test set #3: Hyperthreading Enabled, 32 MB Hash, Engine Parameters @ Default
>>>
>>>Shredder 7.04: Shreddermark: 2784 +- 0 (0.4s) 907kN/s
>>>
>>>Deep Fritz 7:  Deepfritzmark: 2476 +- 0 (3.4s) 2532kN/s
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Test set #4; Hyperthreading enabled, 16MB Hash, engine parameters @ default
>>>
>>>Shredder 7.04;  Shreddermark: 2784 +- 0 (0.4s) 1008kN/s
>>>
>>>Deep fritz 7:  Deepfritzmark: 2476 +- 0 (4.5s) 2544 kN/s
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This is somewhat confusing as Fritz scored the highest fritzmark with
>>>hyperthreading_disabled_ even though his kN/s were_far_lower. Shredder scored
>>>far better with it_enabled_ both in result, speed, and time to solution.
>>>Also Shredder seemed to benefit more from the smaller hash sizes where Fritz
>>>seemed relatively worsened by them. Does anyone have any insight as to these
>>>seemingly contradictory results? And would I be better to run Deep Fritz with
>>>the hyperthreading diasabled even though his kN/s is considerably lower?
>>>
>>>Charles
>>
>>Im not surprised.
>>
>>You can get a lower Fritzmark although your Computer is faster and has higher
>>kN/s values. The Fritzmark is not linear.
>>This seems to be complete Nonsense.
>>
>>In addition they changed the Fritzmark ratings arbitrarily with the release of
>>Fritz 7 because the kN/s were smaller in the new versions of Fritz.
>>
>>You should use the Crafty Benchmark because the results are far more reliable.
>>A Crafty Benchmark is for example used in the famous SPEC CPU 2000 benchmark.
>>
>>http://www.specbench.org/osg/cpu2000/CINT2000/
>>
>>
>>This seems to be the only important Testposition for Fritzmark:
>>
>>[D]1r5r/3b1pk1/p2p1np1/p1qPp3/2N1PbP1/2P2PN1/1PB1Q1K1/R3R3 b - - 0 1
>>
>>The time it takes till the engine reaches the end of ply 10 is measured.
>>
>>When you start the Test three positions are evaluated up to ply 6:
>>
>>[D] 1q2r3/2p1bpkp/5np1/8/5B1P/5QNK/3P1PP1/R7 w - - 0 1
>>
>>[D] r1b2rk1/1p2bppp/p4n2/4B3/1qBR4/2N5/P3QPPP/R5K1 w - - 0 1
>>
>>[D] r4rk1/5p2/p1b1pQpq/8/1B2P3/2NR4/PPP3PP/1K6 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Michael
>
>
>Michael Crafty 19.3 is showing one cpu only in the dos window. how do i get it
>to recognize all 4 threads for the test?

You should ask Bob.
Maybe you need a Crafty.rc file like this one:

ansi	off

adaptive 1.2M 12M 192M 3M 48M

log off

smpmt	4

book	on
book	random 1
book	width 5

tbpath	C:\chessbase\TB\
cache	8m

learn	7
ponder	on
swindle	off

time cpu

exit



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