Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 10:42:09 04/10/03
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On April 10, 2003 at 13:36:55, Keith Evans wrote: >On April 10, 2003 at 12:44:46, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On April 10, 2003 at 12:39:59, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On April 10, 2003 at 12:02:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On April 10, 2003 at 11:37:50, Jonas Bylund wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 10:27:57, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 10:11:21, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 09:25:09, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 09:20:15, ERIQ wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>These are all great goals, but I like this order better. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>* A Linux/bsd version of Chess Tiger w/ great gui ie. Eboard or better. >>>>>>>>>* A native ARM version of Chess Tiger for Palm >>>>>>>>>* Chess Tiger 16 >>>>>>>>>* ...and a few more projects that I prefer to keep secret >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>basis for order is: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>1.I will have a freebsd system running in about two week hopefully (just waiting >>>>>>>>>on hardware to arrive) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>2.As soon as I could buy a new sony palm I will. So I can win a game from time >>>>>>>>>to time :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>3.And ct16 should be last because ct15 is already too strong!! whether it's >>>>>>>>>first or last on that silly list that everone likes, I can't beat it on a 486 >>>>>>>>>comp. And yes I've tried shamlessly >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Just my two cents. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sign, >>>>>>>>> Eriq >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>a dual version of CT15 would kick more butt than ct16 or working at the unknown >>>>>>>>freebsd. note that freebsd allows multiprocessing but multithreading at it i >>>>>>>>cannot advice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I think a dual version of CTX would be great! maybe we should have a hands up >>>>>>>here, to see if we can influence the order of things ;) (note: people with dual >>>>>>>processor systems votes count double, ok maybe only 1.7 :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Jonas >>>>>> >>>>>>Some people are simply too lazy or have too much bugs in their software to get >>>>>>stuff parallel well to work. >>>>>> >>>>>>It will be always like that. >>>>> >>>>>Well i don't know where that came from, but i am quite sure that an accomplished >>>>>programmer like CT would have no problems making Tiger SMP. >>>> >>>>in which case he is just plain lazy now. >>> >>> >>> >>>Vincent I have explained that I have other priorities. >>> >>>Why should I spend time on a task that I estimate is mostly a waste of time? >>> >>>Can you mention the benefits that has brought to you the multiprocesor version >>>of Diep? >> >>i show up at 500 processors world champs 2003 to name one. >> >>other is that i don't need to waste my time with forward pruning because i get >>already a factor 2 nearly out of SMP. >> >>>Have you won any tournament thanks to it? Has it improved your image, the >>>perception of quality in the eye of your future customers? How much money (=fuel >>>to continue improving your chess engine) have you made from it? >> >>It definitely will. >> >>Noomen has brought you a few victories at quick levels. Well done Christophe. >> >>>How can you justify that it has not been an almost complete waste of time? >>> Christophe >> >>History will forget you. History won't forget me. You will see soon. So far SMP >>was just a factor 1.5 speedup for most and 1.8 to 2.0 for some. >> >>But coming years the difference will be way more. Factors 4.0 to 8.0 will not >>get uncommon. Just read my lips. >> >>In my case how about 500 cpus at europes fastest supercomputer for >>computerchess? >> >>Now *that* is a bigger sales argument than you might think Christophe. Let's not >>publicly discuss sales. But you know what i mean. I bet you want to exchange all >>those tournament victories for just one shot at the title at a world >>championship which simultaneously is also a shot to playing the FIDE world >>champ! >> >>Best regards, >>Vincent > > >Vincent, > >You're using a 500 CPU system for performance, and you're worried about the cost >of an SDRAM DIMM (or whatever type of memory) in a different thread... > >Wow! my thing is in software not hardware keith. If people buy my thing it is a software cdrom. price matters there too if it is not too much. I can't ask $1000 for my thing if it is software. $250 would be outrageous too. But when we talk about hardware that everyone can buy, then price matters of course. there is a big diff between software and hardware, and that's price. Whether i run on a dual K7 or a 500 processor, it is the same program. 500 processors simply speed you up more than 2. that's all. >I think that Christophe is more interested in concrete results than in >predictions. If SMP becomes important then he'll just move it up on his priority >list. AFAIK he is a successful business man. > >Later, >Keith
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