Author: Jonas Bylund
Date: 11:09:02 04/10/03
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On April 10, 2003 at 13:56:29, Keith Evans wrote: >On April 10, 2003 at 13:42:09, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On April 10, 2003 at 13:36:55, Keith Evans wrote: >> >>>On April 10, 2003 at 12:44:46, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On April 10, 2003 at 12:39:59, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 12:02:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 11:37:50, Jonas Bylund wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 10:27:57, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 10:11:21, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 09:25:09, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 09:20:15, ERIQ wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>These are all great goals, but I like this order better. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>* A Linux/bsd version of Chess Tiger w/ great gui ie. Eboard or better. >>>>>>>>>>>* A native ARM version of Chess Tiger for Palm >>>>>>>>>>>* Chess Tiger 16 >>>>>>>>>>>* ...and a few more projects that I prefer to keep secret >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>basis for order is: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>1.I will have a freebsd system running in about two week hopefully (just waiting >>>>>>>>>>>on hardware to arrive) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>2.As soon as I could buy a new sony palm I will. So I can win a game from time >>>>>>>>>>>to time :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>3.And ct16 should be last because ct15 is already too strong!! whether it's >>>>>>>>>>>first or last on that silly list that everone likes, I can't beat it on a 486 >>>>>>>>>>>comp. And yes I've tried shamlessly >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Just my two cents. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sign, >>>>>>>>>>> Eriq >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>a dual version of CT15 would kick more butt than ct16 or working at the unknown >>>>>>>>>>freebsd. note that freebsd allows multiprocessing but multithreading at it i >>>>>>>>>>cannot advice. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I think a dual version of CTX would be great! maybe we should have a hands up >>>>>>>>>here, to see if we can influence the order of things ;) (note: people with dual >>>>>>>>>processor systems votes count double, ok maybe only 1.7 :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Jonas >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Some people are simply too lazy or have too much bugs in their software to get >>>>>>>>stuff parallel well to work. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It will be always like that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Well i don't know where that came from, but i am quite sure that an accomplished >>>>>>>programmer like CT would have no problems making Tiger SMP. >>>>>> >>>>>>in which case he is just plain lazy now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Vincent I have explained that I have other priorities. >>>>> >>>>>Why should I spend time on a task that I estimate is mostly a waste of time? >>>>> >>>>>Can you mention the benefits that has brought to you the multiprocesor version >>>>>of Diep? >>>> >>>>i show up at 500 processors world champs 2003 to name one. >>>> >>>>other is that i don't need to waste my time with forward pruning because i get >>>>already a factor 2 nearly out of SMP. >>>> >>>>>Have you won any tournament thanks to it? Has it improved your image, the >>>>>perception of quality in the eye of your future customers? How much money (=fuel >>>>>to continue improving your chess engine) have you made from it? >>>> >>>>It definitely will. >>>> >>>>Noomen has brought you a few victories at quick levels. Well done Christophe. >>>> >>>>>How can you justify that it has not been an almost complete waste of time? >>>>> Christophe >>>> >>>>History will forget you. History won't forget me. You will see soon. So far SMP >>>>was just a factor 1.5 speedup for most and 1.8 to 2.0 for some. >>>> >>>>But coming years the difference will be way more. Factors 4.0 to 8.0 will not >>>>get uncommon. Just read my lips. >>>> >>>>In my case how about 500 cpus at europes fastest supercomputer for >>>>computerchess? >>>> >>>>Now *that* is a bigger sales argument than you might think Christophe. Let's not >>>>publicly discuss sales. But you know what i mean. I bet you want to exchange all >>>>those tournament victories for just one shot at the title at a world >>>>championship which simultaneously is also a shot to playing the FIDE world >>>>champ! >>>> >>>>Best regards, >>>>Vincent >>> >>> >>>Vincent, >>> >>>You're using a 500 CPU system for performance, and you're worried about the cost >>>of an SDRAM DIMM (or whatever type of memory) in a different thread... >>> >>>Wow! >> >>my thing is in software not hardware keith. If people buy my thing it is a >>software cdrom. price matters there too if it is not too much. I can't ask $1000 >>for my thing if it is software. $250 would be outrageous too. >> >>But when we talk about hardware that everyone can buy, then price matters of >>course. >> >>there is a big diff between software and hardware, and that's price. >> >>Whether i run on a dual K7 or a 500 processor, it is the same program. 500 >>processors simply speed you up more than 2. that's all. > >Well if you can keep the same executible then it could be a selling point. I was >assuming that the 500 processor version would have some differences. Is the 500 >processor box running Windows? Linux? Good question ;) Jonas
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