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Subject: Re: To SMP or not to SMP what's the answer?

Author: Keith Evans

Date: 14:35:36 04/10/03

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On April 10, 2003 at 17:15:39, Pavel Blokhine wrote:

>On April 10, 2003 at 15:31:04, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>
>>On April 10, 2003 at 13:25:21, Jonas Bylund wrote:
>>
>>>Personally i have seen a great difference in the long run between SMP capable
>>>chess engines and single processor engines, in the words of someone who have
>>>dealt with both, what would you say are the pro's and con's??
>>>
>>>Jonas
>>
>>While messing with SMP machines is a bit of fun, I still prefer single cpu
>>machines. I've noticed the bandwidth on all x86 SMP machines are pretty horrid
>>compared to fast single cpu systems. Dual Xeon 2.8GHz gets about 2.5GB/s, my
>>single AthlonXP system is pulling about 3.5gb/s. Not to mention the latency is
>>pretty nasty with SMP machines.
>>
>>Also, there the overclockability factor. Single cpu machines tend to overclock
>>much more and cost much less. Plus with a fast single cpu machine you get good
>>performance all around, not in just the select few applications that support
>>SMP.
>>
>>As far as applications go, I'm sure there are more to come.. but for RIGHT NOW,
>>if you get an smp machine are you going to wait 2 years before there are enough
>>SMP applications to make it worth while? By then you'll want another upgrade and
>>would have wasted the SMP systems capabilities, and by then it would probably
>>just get thrown in the closet or get turned into a router.
>>
>>I'm happy knowing my 2.5GHz XP gets 1gb/s more memory bandwidth than a dual Xeon
>>system, and faster performance than a dual Xeon 2.4GHz in chess and about equal
>>speeds with a P4-3.06 @ 4GHz. Not bad for an $80 cpu, $80 motherboard, $150 of
>>ram, etc..
>>
>>
>>I know SMP does have it's advantages, of course. I use a dual Celeron 400@550 in
>>my server, it comes in pretty handy (plus it's just fun to mess with). IMHO
>>if you're not doing strenuous tasks like massive webserver stuff, multiple game
>>servers handling hundreds (or thousands) of people, cpu intensive database
>>manipulation, etc, then it'd be a waste of money. For desktop stuff, playing
>>games & whatnot, my vote is for a single cpu box. :)
>
>
>
>$80 cpu, $motherboard, $150 of Ram? Where did you get such a deal? How much
>would it cost me if i I want to add a 17" LCD flat panel monitor? Can you give
>me more infos please?

A shop up the street from me lists:

AMD
Athlon XP processors
3000+ 2.17G/333MHz, 512K Boxed Barton.$615.95

Which isn't even 2.5 GHz. Now they're not the cheapest, but...

What exactly are you running here?



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