Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 11:01:14 10/11/98
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On October 11, 1998 at 04:01:51, Keith Ian Price wrote: >On October 09, 1998 at 03:17:11, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On October 07, 1998 at 19:01:38, Keith Ian Price wrote: >> >>>>>>>Nunn-Match 40/120, 20/60 >>>>>>> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 >>>>>>>1 HIARCS 6,P233MMX 2540 1½1111½1111½0½½11½11 16.0/20 >>>>>>>2 CST Black,PII-400 2450 0½0000½0000½1½½00½00 4.0/20 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>ELO performance difference Hiarcs P233MMX - CST PII400: 240 >>>> >>>>>>Performance on ICC was: >>>>>> >>>>>>Opponents avg. rating: 2393 >>>>>>CSTWin/BETA +19 =9 -38 total: 36% >>>>>>ELO-Performance 2284 >>>> >>>>>I cannot believe that Cstalwin95 has only 2300 in serious games after seeing the >>>>>results of Thorsten's tournament(Cstal has 6.5 out of 9) >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>>Thorstens tourney results is like flipping a coin. EVERYTHING is possible. >>> >>>I think that the ICC games were blitz or rapid chess games, and CSTal does much >>>better in games at tournament time controls than at blitz. Thorsten's tournament >>>is at 40/120, and therefore his results are quite possible, although any single >>>tournament should not be used as a measure of the strength of a program. >>>kp >> >>Start reading above. The Nunn-Test, onem ay call it none-test, was played in >>tournament mode. SO no excuses. > >Start reading above. "although any single tournament should not be used as a >measure of the strength of a program": SO no unsubstantiated conclusions. The >Nunn-Test you refer to was conducted between CSTBlack and Hiarcs. Hiarcs was not >even in mclane's tournament, and mclane is using the Win95 version, so my >statement that his results are quite possible still stands. Your conclusion that >my statement was a defense for CST was incorrect. It was more a defense of >Thorsten's reputation from an unwarranted attack in a forum in which he is no >longer allowed to defend himself. I read the coin-flipping comment near to the time it was written. I didn't take it as an attack. I took it is an acknowledgement that in a tournament you can get lots of different results, due to random chance. I don't think it is an accusation that Thorsten is cheating, since I can't think of a way you could cheat with a chess program that would require a coin. He could have suggested that Thorsten picked book lines himself, but then why the reference to the coin? bruce
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