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Subject: Re: Can somebody find the losing mistake(Frenzee-Movei)

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 13:25:01 04/13/03

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On April 13, 2003 at 15:04:53, Jim Monaghan wrote:

>On April 13, 2003 at 06:55:48, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>Movei got QN vs RRPP and lost the game.
>>
>>It seems clear to me that after 38...Qe8 black is lost but I suspect that the
>>losing error was earlier.
>>
>>I will be happy to hear some comments about the game.
>
>Hi Uri,
>
>I think a strategical mistake occured here:
>
>[D]1k4q1/pp1n3p/1bp2n2/4p3/1P2P3/2PPNRPP/P2B4/R6K b - -
>
>28... Ne8 does not further Black's position. I think 28... Bxe3! is much
>stronger. The WN soon becomes a powerhouse on the white squares as the pawn play

Might be true but it would have been much easier to finish the game off with
27...h5! (28.a4 a6).
White is completley lost after this move.


>on the queenside developed resulting in a fine square on d5 where it surveyed
>the board. Meanwhile Black's knights had no squares or targets. Play could
>develop like this:
>
>
>29. Bxe3 Qe6 {attacking the h-pawn}
>30. Kg2 b6 {preparing c6-c5}

30.g4 is also better for black, however its the best move for white.

>31. Rf2 Qd6 (focusing on the weak d-pawn}
>32. Rd2 c5 {continuing the attack}
>33. bxc5 Nxc5 {again hitting the weakling}
>34. Rad1 Kb7
>
>White looks tied up and his game lacks life. Black's Q and 2Ns should co-operate
>well together. White didn't get the f-file play or the WN at d5 as in the game.
>My feeling is that Black will prevail.
>
>Here's a shootout with SOS 3 for Arena on a Cel 1.3 Ghz. Time control of 10
>seconds per move on average. It seems that when an engine is failing low, it
>takes much longer. Games with unbalanced material are always difficult to judge.
>
>[Event "Shootout"]
>[Site "Cel 1.3 Ghz"]
>[Date "2003.04.13"]
>[Round "1"]
>[White "SOS 3 for Arena"]
>[Black "SOS 3 for Arena"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "8/pk5p/1p1q1n2/2n1p3/4P3/2PPB1PP/P2R2K1/3R4 w - -"]
>
>1. g4 {-1.43/16 1:45m} Ne6 {+1.41/14 10s} 2. Kg3 {-1.70/14
>34s} Nf4 {+1.70/14 9s} 3. Rf1 {-1.99/15 49s} Qa3 {+2.00/14
>9s} 4. Bxf4 {-1.99/16 49s} exf4+ {+1.98/15 5s} 5. Kxf4
>{-2.48/15 39s} Nd5+ {+3.09/14 15s} 6. exd5 {-3.36/17 49s}
>Qf8+ {+3.48/18 29s} 7. Kg3 {-3.46/18 39s} Qxf1 {+3.45/16
>5s} 8. c4 {-3.74/18 48s} b5 {+3.46/14 6s} 9. cxb5 {-3.92/17
>49s} Qg1+ {+3.84/15 5s} 10. Rg2 {-3.94/17 49s} Qe3+
>{+3.97/18 29s} 11. Kh4 {-4.38/17 49s} Kb6 {+4.36/14 7s}
>12. Rc2 {-4.40/16 38s} Kxb5 {+4.44/16 20s} 13. Rb2+
>{-4.53/17 49s} Kc5 {+4.45/15 6s} 14. Rb7 {-4.35/16 39s}
>Qf2+ {+4.17/13 6s} 15. Kh5 {-4.53/16 49s} Qxa2 {+4.37/15
>10s} 16. Rc7+ {-4.64/16 45s} Kb6 {+4.62/15 6s} 17. Rxh7
>{-5.06/17 44s} Qxd5+ {+5.05/16 6s} 18. Kh4 {-5.07/17 49s}
>a5 {+5.00/15 6s} 19. Rh6+ {-5.34/17 39s} Kc5 {+5.06/15 6s}
>20. Rh8 {-5.57/18 49s} a4 {+5.56/15 6s} 21. Rc8+ {-5.81/17
>39s} Kd4 {+6.41/14 12s} 22. Rc1 {-7.17/17 49s} a3 {+7.16/11
>5s} 23. Ra1 {-7.35/17 44s} a2 {+7.35/14 5s} *
>
>What do you think? 28...Bxe3! getting rid of White's future best piece seems
>much better in hindsight.
>
>Cheers,
>Jim
>
>
>>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>>[Site "URI-PC"]
>>[Date "2003.04.12"]
>>[Round "1"]
>>[White "Frenzee 143.1"]
>>[Black "movei00_8044"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[PlyCount "139"]
>>[EventDate "2003.??.??"]
>>[TimeControl "1200+20"]
>>
>>1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O d5 6. Bxd5 gxf3 7. Qxf3 Qf6 8.
>>Nc3 c6 9. Bb3 Be6 10. Bxe6 fxe6 11. Qh5+ Qg6 12. Qe5 Nd7 13. Qxh8 O-O-O 14. Ne2
>>Ngf6 15. Nxf4 Bc5+ 16. Kh1 Qf7 17. Qxd8+ Kxd8 18. Nh3 e5 19. d3 Kc8 20. Bd2 Qg8
>>21. Nf2 Kb8 22. Nd1 Ng4 23. h3 Qd8 24. g3 Qg8 25. b4 Bd4 26. c3 Bb6 27. Rf3
>>Ngf6 28. Ne3 Ne8 29. c4 Bd4 30. Rc1 c5 31. b5 a6 32. a4 axb5 33. axb5 Qg5 34.
>>Rd1 Ng7 35. Nd5 Qh5 36. Kg2 Ne6 37. b6 Nd8 38. Rdf1 Qe8 39. Rf5 Qg6 40. Rg5 Qh6
>>41. Bc1 Qc6 42. Rg8 Nxb6 43. Rxd8+ Ka7 44. Rff8 Qa4 45. Ra8+ Nxa8 46. Rxa8+
>>Kxa8 47. Nb6+ Ka7 48. Nxa4 Ka6 49. Bd2 b5 50. cxb5+ Kxb5 51. Nc3+ Kc6 52. Nd5
>>c4 53. dxc4 Kc5 54. Nf6 Kxc4 55. Bg5 Bc5 56. Nxh7 Kd4 57. Kf3 Kc4 58. g4 Bb6
>>59. Be7 Ba5 60. g5 Bd2 61. g6 Bh6 62. Bf8 Bc1 63. g7 Kc3 64. g8=Q Bf4 65. Ba3
>>Bc1 66. Qc8+ Kb3 67. Qxc1 Ka4 68. Qb2 Ka5 69. Bc5 Ka6 70. Qb6# {White mates}
>>1-0
>>
>>Uri



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