Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 09:36:54 04/14/03
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On April 14, 2003 at 09:53:44, Roy Brunjes wrote:
>On April 14, 2003 at 04:33:03, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>Playing with the black pieces Im in big trouble against Shredder 7.04.
>>It is supposed to be very strong in the endgame, especially if it is a piece up.
>>Should I resign?
>>
>>[D] r3k2r/1b2bpp1/ppn1p2p/2p1P3/P4Pn1/2N2N1P/BPP3P1/R1BR2K1 b kq - 0 16
>>
>>Heeeeeeeelllllppp :)
>>
>>Michael
>
>I think resignation is a bit premature, though one might question your sanity
>for taking on such a strong program full strength!
>
The position is not from a game against Shredder. It can appear in the Bc4,f4
Sicilian opening.
You are right: Resignation IS premature, especially against Shredder.
Your Chessmaster is also right:
16...h5!! is the best move in this position. Its a move I can win against
Shredder 7.04.
The position is of course lost for black (there is still some work to do) if
Shredder would play 17.hxg4 but SMK didnt allow Shredder to play that move,
although the Qeens are off.
Is that really necessary ? Arent there any sophisticated methods
to prevent mate attacks? Isnt this stupid?
I think 90% of the users want to have good Analysis engines and
Shredder is IMO NOT particularly good for that (many reasons).
[Event "ATHLONXP, Blitz:15'+10""]
[Site "ATHLONXP"]
[Date "2003.04.14"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Shredder 7.04"]
[Black "The King 3.23 SKR"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "-0.52;0.29"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r3k2r/1b2bpp1/ppn1p3/2p1P2p/P4Pn1/2N2N1P/BPP3P1/R1BR2K1 w kq - 0 17"]
[PlyCount "80"]
{W=14.1 ply; 356kN/s; 181.157 TBAs
B=11.9 ply; 197kN/s
} 17. f5 {-0.52/12 49}
c4 {0.29/10 26} 18. fxe6 {-0.63/12 61} Bc5+ {(fxe6) 0.07/11 51} 19. Kf1 {
-0.91/13 58} fxe6 {0.07/10 23} 20. hxg4 {(Se4) -0.04/12 33} hxg4 {0.00/11 23}
21. Ng5 {-0.05/13 64} Rh1+ {0.00/10 35} 22. Ke2 {-0.05/7 0} Rh2 {0.00/11 51}
23. Ke1 {(Sxe6) -0.05/12 45} Nd4 {(Txg2) -0.52/10 32} 24. Rxd4 {-0.51/13 57}
Bxd4 {-0.64/11 29} 25. Bxc4 {(Se2) -0.47/12 15} Rc8 {-0.81/10 24} 26. Nce4 {
-0.42/13 45} Bxe5 {-0.86/10 28} 27. Bd3 {-0.34/12 24} Ke7 {(Txg2) -0.86/10 38}
28. g3 {(Tb1) -0.33/11 16} Rch8 {-0.80/10 56} 29. c3 {(Tb1) -0.55/11 39} Rg2 {
-0.68/9 25} 30. Kf1 {-0.80/14 64} Rhh2 {-0.53/10 17} 31. a5 {-0.78/13 50} b5 {
-0.77/10 33} 32. Be3 {-0.87/13 35} Rxb2 {-0.86/10 22} 33. Bc5+ {-1.12/14 109}
Ke8 {(Kd7) -0.87/10 21} 34. Bg1 {-1.51/13 35} Rh1 {-1.40/9 26} 35. Re1 {
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37. Bxe2 {-4.14/16 23} Bf4 {-3.01/13 27} 38. Bxg4 {-4.26/15 18} Be3 {
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Bxg5 {-3.19/14 28} 41. Bxe6 {-4.44/17 22} Bd8 {-3.23/13 24} 42. Kf1 {
(La2) -4.44/16 11} Bxa5 {-3.32/13 17} 43. c4 {-4.65/16 26} Ke7 {-3.38/13 23}
44. Bg8 {-4.63/15 24} Bb6 {(g5) -3.32/12 23} 45. cxb5 {-4.61/14 14} axb5 {
-3.39/13 25} 46. Ng4 {(Ke2) -4.58/14 19} Bc8 {-3.38/12 14} 47. Ne5 {
(Sf2) -4.68/14 12} g5 {-3.58/12 19} 48. Bb3 {-4.74/14 20} Bf5 {-3.63/12 21} 49.
Bd1 {(Sf7) -5.01/14 23} Ke6 {-3.65/12 20} 50. Nf3 {(Sg4) -5.16/14 12} Kf6 {
(Lh3+) -3.88/12 15} 51. Kg2 {(Sh2) -5.33/14 13} g4 {-4.09/12 17} 52. Ne1 {
(Sg1) -5.38/14 14} b4 {(La5) -4.38/12 17} 53. Bb3 {(Lc2) -5.90/15 14} Be4+ {
-4.55/13 22} 54. Kg3 {-6.72/17 19} Kg5 {(Kf5) -4.66/13 23} 55. Be6 {
(Lc4) -6.64/14 17} Bc7+ {-4.47/11 15} 56. Kf2 {-6.64/7 0} g3+ {-4.88/12 20} 0-1
[Event "ATHLONXP, Blitz:15'+10""]
[Site "ATHLONXP"]
[Date "2003.04.14"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Shredder 7.04"]
[Black "The King 3.23 SKR"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "-0.52;0.29"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r3k2r/1b2bpp1/ppn1p3/2p1P2p/P4Pn1/2N2N1P/BPP3P1/R1BR2K1 w kq - 0 17"]
[PlyCount "110"]
{W=13.6 ply; 345kN/s; 130.727 TBAs
B=10.6 ply; 194kN/s
} 17. f5 {-0.52/12 49}
c4 {0.29/10 26} 18. fxe6 {-0.63/12 61} Bc5+ {(fxe6) 0.07/11 51} 19. Kf1 {
-0.91/13 58} fxe6 {0.07/10 23} 20. hxg4 {(Se4) -0.04/12 33} hxg4 {0.00/11 23}
21. Ng5 {-0.05/13 64} Rh1+ {0.00/10 35} 22. Ke2 {-0.05/7 0} Rh2 {0.00/11 51}
23. Ke1 {(Sxe6) -0.05/12 44} Nd4 {(Txg2) -0.52/10 32} 24. Rxd4 {-0.15/13 37}
Bxd4 {-0.64/11 29} 25. Bxc4 {(Se2) -0.48/12 36} Rc8 {-0.81/10 24} 26. Nce4 {
-0.44/13 35} Bxe5 {-0.86/10 28} 27. Bd3 {-0.38/12 28} Ke7 {-0.86/10 38} 28. g3
{(Tb1) -0.46/12 68} Rch8 {-0.80/10 56} 29. Rb1 {-0.29/11 30} Rh1+ {-0.44/9 46}
30. Kd2 {-1.90/14 57} R8h2+ {-1.10/9 22} 31. Be2 {-1.90/15 53} Bf6 {-1.24/11 27
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-2.48/15 26} Reg1 {-2.01/11 20} 36. Be3 {(Lf5) -2.41/14 18} Rxb1 {-2.10/11 10}
37. Bxb6 {-2.28/13 19} Rh8 {(Txb2) -2.03/10 17} 38. Bc5+ {(Sd4) -2.26/12 20}
Kf7 {-2.07/11 14} 39. Nf4 {(Sd4) -2.34/13 19} Rxb2 {-2.29/10 17} 40. Bd4 {
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-2.31/11 10} 42. Bg4 {-2.54/13 16} Rb6 {(Tb4) -2.28/11 38} 43. Be6+ {
(c4) -2.36/10 4} Kh8 {(Kg7) -2.41/10 9} 44. c3 {-2.23/13 18} Rdd6 {
(Tbd6) -2.37/10 17} 45. Bc4 {(Ld5) -2.38/13 22} Rb1 {-2.32/10 19} 46. Ke2 {
-2.49/12 19} Rc1 {(a5) -2.40/10 23} 47. Be6 {-2.21/13 15} Kg7 {
(Kh7) -2.36/10 15} 48. g4 {(Sh5+) -1.71/11 4} a5 {-1.92/10 16} 49. g5 {
-1.56/13 15} Ba6+ {(Txd4) -2.15/12 23} 50. Kd2 {-2.94/16 32} Rf1 {-3.33/12 18}
51. gxf6+ {-2.70/15 13} Kh6 {-3.32/12 9} 52. Ke3 {(Kc2) -3.68/15 46} Bb7 {
-3.94/12 29} 53. Bc5 {-3.92/14 22} Rf3+ {-4.08/11 14} 54. Ke2 {-3.92/7 0} Rxf4
{-4.17/13 22} 55. Bxd6 {-4.04/13 14} Rxf6 {-4.16/13 21} 56. Bb3 {
(Lc4) -4.28/13 22} Ba6+ {(Txd6) -4.56/13 21} 57. Kd2 {-4.55/15 16} Rxd6+ {
-4.70/13 16} 58. Kc2 {-4.73/15 22} Kg5 {(Kg6) -5.45/13 20} 59. Bf7 {-4.85/14 26
} Kf4 {(Kf6) -5.56/12 16} 60. Bb3 {(Kb3) -5.54/13 11} Ke3 {-5.72/12 12} 61. Bf7
{(Lg8) -5.89/12 9} Rb6 {(Tf6) -5.96/12 14} 62. Ba2 {-9.20/19 25} Bd3+ {
-99.83/13 13} 63. Kc1 {-11.10/19 37} Rb7 {(Ke2) -99.85/11 2} 64. c4 {-#9/15 9}
Kd4 {-99.85/9 0} 65. Kd2 {(Kd1) -#8/15 10} Rb2+ {-99.87/7 0} 66. Kd1 {-#7/14 5}
Rxa2 {-99.89/6 0} 67. c5 {-#3/12 6} Be2+ {(Tf2) -99.91/4 0} 68. Kc1 {-#5/12 4}
Kc3 {-99.93/3 0} 69. Kb1 {-#3/12 3} Rxa4 {-99.95/2 0} 70. c6 {-#2/11 3} Bd3+ {
-99.97/2 0} 71. Kc1 {-#1/7 0} Ra1# {-99.99/1 0} 0-1
Michael
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