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Subject: Re: "Kasparov's Losing Remarks Win No Award for Class"

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 22:07:20 04/14/03

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On April 15, 2003 at 00:03:05, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On April 14, 2003 at 06:29:16, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>
>>On April 13, 2003 at 18:22:42, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>
>>>Honestly, I agree with Kasparov.  That game was simply not worth of a brilliancy
>>>prize.  Radjabov had a hopelessly lost position and got lucky.  A brilliancy is
>>>supposed to be perfect play by the winner and almost-perfect play by the loser -
>>>this game was poor play by the winner and a blunder by the loser.  It would have
>>>been nice if Kasparov had stated his objections more diplomatically though.
>>>
>>>anthony
>>
>>I agree that this game may not deserve a brilliancy prize, but I do not agree
>>with your definition of brilliancy. It is ok for me if there are some mistakes,
>>I vaguely remember a game between Capablanca and Janowsky. First Janowsky
>>outplayed Capablanca, then Capablanca defended very well and Janowsky made some
>>mistakes... and at the end Capablanca won. It is considered one of his
>>masterpieces, simply a brilliant game. It should not be difficult to find, it
>>must be one of the earliest games between those two great players.
>
>Along those lines :
>
>[Event "London, 1851 [The Immortal Game]"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "????.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Anderssen"]
>[Black "Kieseritzky"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "C33"]
>[Variation "KGA: Bishop's Gambit, Bryan Countergambit"]
>
>1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Qh4+ 4. Kf1 b5 5. Bxb5 Nf6 6. Nf3 Qh6 7. d3
>Nh5 8. Nh4 Qg5 9. Nf5 c6 10. g4 Nf6 11. Rg1 cxb5 12. h4 Qg6 13. h5 Qg5
>14. Qf3 Ng8 15. Bxf4 Qf6 16. Nc3 Bc5 17. Nd5 Qxb2 18. Bd6 Bxg1 19. e5
>Qxa1+ 20. Ke2 Na6 21. Nxg7+ Kd8 22. Qf6+ Nxf6 23. Be7# 1-0
>
>[Event "Berlin, 1852 (The Evergreen Game)"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "????.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Anderssen"]
>[Black "Dufresne"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "C52"]
>[Variation "Evans Gambit: 5...Ba5 6.d4 exd4"]
>
>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5 6. d4 exd4 7. O-O d3
>8. Qb3 Qf6 9. e5 Qg6 10. Re1 Nge7 11. Ba3 b5 12. Qxb5 Rb8 13. Qa4 Bb6
>14. Nbd2 Bb7 15. Ne4 Qf5 16. Bxd3 Qh5 17. Nf6+ gxf6 18. exf6 Rg8 19.
>Rad1 Qxf3 20. Rxe7+ Nxe7 21. Qxd7+ Kxd7 22. Bf5+ Ke8 23. Bd7+ Kf8 24.
>Bxe7# 1-0
>
>Full of all sorts of quirky moves (by today's standards).
>
>But which of us will EVER FORGET the first time we read through them?
>;-)

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First game boo-boos:
===============================================================

E:\programme\winboard\ruffian>ruffian -h 256M -T \bugs.epd -t 180 -p 12
Hash size 268435456
Ruffian 1.0.1
feature done=0
Loading configuration: ruffian.cfg
Warning: EGTB_HASH_SIZE changed, default=1048576, newvalue=8388608
Logfile: Mon Apr 14 21:46:51 2003
Total hash size 256M
Initializing tablebases: /programme/winboard/nalimov
Testing \bugs.epd, 180 seconds, extra ply 12
Testing: test 1   Avoid: g4
[D]rnb1kb1r/p2p1ppp/2p5/1B3Nqn/4Pp2/3P4/PPP3PP/RNBQ1K1R w kq -
  Depth   Time  Score    Best line
   7/17   1.04   0.33    Ba4 Kd8 Qd2 Bc5 d4 Ba6+ Ke1 Bb6
   7-->   1.23   0.33    Ba4 Kd8 Qd2 Bc5 d4 Ba6+ Ke1 Bb6
   8/20   2.19     --    Ba4
   8/20   2.35  -0.04    Ba4 g6 h4 Qf6 Qe2 d5 Nc3 Ng3+ Nxg3 fxg3+
   8/20   2.64   x.xx    h4
   8-->   3.09  -0.04    Ba4 g6 h4 Qf6 Qe2 d5 Nc3 Ng3+ Nxg3 fxg3+
   9/23   7.86   0.11    Ba4 Na6 d4 g6 h4 Qf6 Nc3 Bb4 Rh3 gxf5 Qxh5 Qxd4
   9-->   8.86   0.11    Ba4 Na6 d4 g6 h4 Qf6 Nc3 Bb4 Rh3 gxf5 Qxh5 Qxd4
  10/24  17.98  -0.17    Ba4 g6 h4 Qf6 Qe2 Bc5 Ke1 O-O Nh6+ Kh8 Nc3
  10-->  21.89  -0.17    Ba4 g6 h4 Qf6 Qe2 Bc5 Ke1 O-O Nh6+ Kh8 Nc3
  11/26  32.37  -0.34    Ba4 g6 h4 Qf6 Qg4 Qe5 Qg5 d5 Rg1 f6 Qg4 Bxf5 exf5
                         Qxf5 Qxf5 gxf5
  11-->  42.84  -0.34    Ba4 g6 h4 Qf6 Qg4 Qe5 Qg5 d5 Rg1 f6 Qg4 Bxf5 exf5
                         Qxf5 Qxf5 gxf5
  12/26  54.45  -0.41    Ba4 g6 h4 Qf6 Nc3 Bb4 Rh3 Bxc3 bxc3 d6 Kg1 Bxf5 exf5
                         Qxf5
  12-->   1:22  -0.41    Ba4 g6 h4 Qf6 Nc3 Bb4 Rh3 Bxc3 bxc3 d6 Kg1 Bxf5 exf5
                         Qxf5
  13/27   2:11     ++    Ba4
  13/29   2:49  -0.03    Ba4 g6 h4 Qf6 Nc3 Bb4 Bd2 Bc5 Rh3 Ng3+ Nxg3 fxg3+
                         Qf3 Qxf3+ gxf3 Bf2 Kg2
  13...   2:59   4/41    g4

Time: 3:00, cpu 89.22%, nodes 76263122, nps 423425
Hash: 128M, used 80%, hits 30%
EGTB: probs 0, hits 0

Best move: Ba4 (-0.03)  Solved (1/1)

Testing: test 2   Avoid: Bc5
[D]rnb1kbnr/p2p1ppp/5q2/1p3N1P/4PBP1/2NP1Q2/PPP5/R4KR1 b kq -
  Depth   Time  Score    Best line
   7/17   1.00   2.11    ... a6 Nd5 Qxb2 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa8 Qxa1+ Kg2 Qxa2 Bxb8
                         Qxc2+
   7-->   1.44   2.11    ... a6 Nd5 Qxb2 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa8 Qxa1+ Kg2 Qxa2 Bxb8
                         Qxc2+
   8/19   1.49     --    ... a6
   8/19   1.86  -0.22    ... a6 Nd5 Qxb2 Re1 Kd8 Bc7+ Ke8 Nb6 Ra7 Bxb8
   8/20   2.14   x.xx    ... b4
   8/20   2.33  -0.15    ... b4 Nd5 Qc6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nd4 Qb7 Nxa8 Qxa8 Bxb8 Qxb8
                         Qxf7
   8/20   3.03   x.xx    ... Bc5
   8/20   4.78   0.25    ... Bc5 d4 Bf8 Nd5 Qc6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa8 Qxa8 Rg2
   8/20   5.18   x.xx    ... g6
   8/20   6.41   0.99    ... g6 Nxb5 Qxb2 Nc7+ Kd8 Re1 Bb7 Nxa8 Bxa8 Bg5+
                         Nf6
   8/20   7.50   x.xx    ... Na6
   8/20   7.89   1.82    ... Na6 g5 Qc6 Nd4 Qb6 Ncxb5 Bc5 e5
   8-->   9.16   1.82    ... Na6 g5 Qc6 Nd4 Qb6 Ncxb5 Bc5 e5
   9/21  11.28   1.89    ... Na6 g5 Qc6 Be5 f6 gxf6 gxf6 Nd4 Qb6 Nd5
   9-->  14.09   1.89    ... Na6 g5 Qc6 Be5 f6 gxf6 gxf6 Nd4 Qb6 Nd5
  10/23  17.48   1.75    ... Na6 g5 Qc6 Be5 f6 gxf6 gxf6 Nd4 Qc5 Bxf6 Nxf6
                         Qxf6
  10-->  26.55   1.75    ... Na6 g5 Qc6 Be5 f6 gxf6 gxf6 Nd4 Qc5 Bxf6 Nxf6
                         Qxf6
  11/25  27.97     --    ... Na6
  11/27  36.76   0.80    ... Na6 Bd6 Bxd6 Nd5 Qe5 d4 Qh2 Rh1 Kf8 Rxh2 Bxh2
  11/28   1:05   x.xx    ... Qc6
  11/31   1:25   1.38    ... Qc6 Nd4 Qb7 Ncxb5 Na6 Be5 f6 Bd6 Qb6 Bxf8 Kxf8
                         Rg2
  11-->   1:40   1.38    ... Qc6 Nd4 Qb7 Ncxb5 Na6 Be5 f6 Bd6 Qb6 Bxf8 Kxf8
                         Rg2
  12/31   1:43     --    ... Qc6
  12/31   1:58   1.07    ... Qc6 Nd4 Qb7 Ncxb5 Na6 g5 Bc5 Be5 Ne7 Bxg7 Rg8
                         Bf6
  12...   2:36  18/35    g5

Time: 3:00, cpu 86.94%, nodes 76643929, nps 425515
Hash: 128M, used 85%, hits 22%
EGTB: probs 0, hits 0

Best move: Qc6 (1.07)  Solved (2/2)

Testing: test 3   Avoid: Bd6
[D]rnb1k1nr/p2p1ppp/8/1pbN1N1P/4PBP1/3P1Q2/PqP5/R4KR1 w kq -
  Depth   Time  Score    Best line
   8/22   1.80  -0.18    Nc7+ Kd8 Qd1 g6 d4 gxf5 dxc5 fxg4 Nxa8
   8-->   3.73  -0.18    Nc7+ Kd8 Qd1 g6 d4 gxf5 dxc5 fxg4 Nxa8
   9/23   5.22   0.00    Nc7+ Kd8 Qd1 g6 d4 gxf5 dxc5 fxe4 Nxa8 Nc6
   9-->   7.96   0.00    Nc7+ Kd8 Qd1 g6 d4 gxf5 dxc5 fxe4 Nxa8 Nc6
  10/27  12.40   0.04    Nc7+ Kd8 Qd1 Bxg1 Nxa8 Na6 Kxg1 Bb7 Rb1 Qxa2 Bg5+
                         f6
  10-->  28.03   0.04    Nc7+ Kd8 Qd1 Bxg1 Nxa8 Na6 Kxg1 Bb7 Rb1 Qxa2 Bg5+
                         f6
  11/29   1:04   0.15    Nc7+ Kd8 Re1 Bxg1 Nxa8 Bc5 Bc7+ Ke8 Bxb8 Qxc2 Nxg7+
                         Kf8 Be5 d6 Re2
  11-->   1:59   0.15    Nc7+ Kd8 Re1 Bxg1 Nxa8 Bc5 Bc7+ Ke8 Bxb8 Qxc2 Nxg7+
                         Kf8 Be5 d6 Re2
  12...   1:59   1/52    Nc7+

Time: 3:00, cpu 80.42%, nodes 79491983, nps 441474
Hash: 128M, used 84%, hits 26%
EGTB: probs 0, hits 0

Best move: Nc7+ (0.15)  Solved (3/3)

Testing: test 4   Avoid: Na6
[D]rnb1k1nr/p2p1ppp/3B4/1p1NPN1P/6P1/3P1Q2/P1P1K3/q5b1 b kq -
  Depth   Time  Score    Best line
   8/23   1.57   1.49    ... Ba6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa6 Qc3 Bc7+ Qxc7 Nxc7 Kxc7 Qxa8
                         Nc6
   8-->   1.85   1.49    ... Ba6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa6 Qc3 Bc7+ Qxc7 Nxc7 Kxc7 Qxa8
                         Nc6
   9/26   3.32   1.32    ... Ba6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa6 Qc3 Bc7+ Qxc7 Nxc7 Kxc7 Qxa8
                         Nh6 Nd6 Nxg4 Nxb5+
   9-->   4.24   1.32    ... Ba6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa6 Qc3 Bc7+ Qxc7 Nxc7 Kxc7 Qxa8
                         Nh6 Nd6 Nxg4 Nxb5+
  10/29   8.96     ++    ... Ba6
  10/29  13.16   1.70    ... Ba6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa6 Qc3 Bc7+ Qxc7 Nxc7 Kxc7 Qxa8
                         Nh6 Nd6 Kb6
  10-->  13.90   1.70    ... Ba6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa6 Qc3 Bc7+ Qxc7 Nxc7 Kxc7 Qxa8
                         Nh6 Nd6 Kb6
  11/29  14.38     --    ... Ba6
  11/30  22.37   1.26    ... Ba6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa6 Qc3 Bc7+ Qxc7 Nxc7 Kxc7 Qxa8
                         Nc6 Nd6 Nxe5 Nxb5+ Kb6 Qxa7+ Kxb5 Qxg1
  11-->  24.82   1.26    ... Ba6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa6 Qc3 Bc7+ Qxc7 Nxc7 Kxc7 Qxa8
                         Nc6 Nd6 Nxe5 Nxb5+ Kb6 Qxa7+ Kxb5 Qxg1
  12/30  25.95     --    ... Ba6
  12/34  57.28   0.66    ... Ba6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa6 Qc3 Bc7+ Qxc7 Nxc7 Kxc7 Qxa8
                         Nc6 Nd6 Nd4+ Kf1 Be3 Qxa7+ Kc6
  12-->   1:03   0.66    ... Ba6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa6 Qc3 Bc7+ Qxc7 Nxc7 Kxc7 Qxa8
                         Nc6 Nd6 Nd4+ Kf1 Be3 Qxa7+ Kc6
  13/34   1:07     --    ... Ba6
  13/35   2:32   0.12    ... Ba6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa6 Qc3 Bc7+ Qxc7 Nxc7 Kxc7 Qxa8
                         Bc5 d4 g6 dxc5 gxf5 Qxa7+ Kc8 gxf5
  13-->   2:51   0.12    ... Ba6 Nc7+ Kd8 Nxa6 Qc3 Bc7+ Qxc7 Nxc7 Kxc7 Qxa8
                         Bc5 d4 g6 dxc5 gxf5 Qxa7+ Kc8 gxf5
  14...   2:51   1/31    Ba6

Time: 3:00, cpu 88.91%, nodes 97814118, nps 543321
Hash: 128M, used 94%, hits 21%
EGTB: probs 0, hits 0

Best move: Ba6 (0.12)  Solved (4/4)
===============================================================
Second game boo-boos:
===============================================================
Testing: test 5   Avoid: Qf5
[D]1r2k2r/pbppnppp/1bn3q1/4P3/Q1B1N3/B1Pp1N2/P4PPP/R3R1K1 b k -
  Depth   Time  Score    Best line
   6-->   1.59  -0.68    ... Nd4 Nfg5 Bc6 Bxf7+ Qxf7 Nxf7 Ne2+ Kh1 Bxa4 Nxh8
   7/21   2.36  -0.97    ... Nd4 Nfg5 Ne6 Bxd3 Bc6 Qb4 Bxf2+ Nxf2 Rxb4 Bxg6
                         hxg6 cxb4 Nxg5
   7-->   5.77  -0.97    ... Nd4 Nfg5 Ne6 Bxd3 Bc6 Qb4 Bxf2+ Nxf2 Rxb4 Bxg6
                         hxg6 cxb4 Nxg5
   8/24   7.62  -0.64    ... Nd4 Nfg5 Bc6 Qb4 Ne2+ Rxe2 Nd5 Bxd5 Bxf2+ Rxf2
                         Rxb4
   8-->  12.54  -0.64    ... Nd4 Nfg5 Bc6 Qb4 Ne2+ Rxe2 Nd5 Bxd5 Bxf2+ Rxf2
                         Rxb4
   9/27  17.97     --    ... Nd4
   9/27  21.47  -1.10    ... Nd4 cxd4 Bxe4 Bxf7+ Qxf7 Rxe4 Qe6 Qb5 c6 Qxd3
                         O-O
   9/27  39.69   x.xx    ... Na5
   9/27  45.68   x.xx    ... d2
   9/27   1:08  -0.83    ... d2 Nexd2 Qf5 Bxe7 Kxe7 Re4 g5 Qa3+ Ke8 e6 fxe6
                         Rae1
   9-->   1:12  -0.83    ... d2 Nexd2 Qf5 Bxe7 Kxe7 Re4 g5 Qa3+ Ke8 e6 fxe6
                         Rae1
  10/28   1:47  -0.55    ... d2 Nexd2 O-O Bxe7 Nxe7 Qxd7 Nf5 Qa4 Rfd8 Ne4
                         Bc6 Qc2
  10-->   2:10  -0.55    ... d2 Nexd2 O-O Bxe7 Nxe7 Qxd7 Nf5 Qa4 Rfd8 Ne4
                         Bc6 Qc2
  11...   2:10   1/45    d2

Time: 3:00, cpu 89.11%, nodes 78070516, nps 433676
Hash: 128M, used 82%, hits 22%
EGTB: probs 0, hits 0

Best move: d2 (-0.55)  Solved (5/5)

Testing: test 6   Avoid: Qxf3
[D]1r2k1r1/pbppnp1p/1bn2P2/7q/Q7/B1PB1N2/P4PPP/3RR1K1 b - -
  Depth   Time  Score    Best line
   6/18   1.29  -0.02    ... Rg4 Qc2 Ne5 Rxe5 Rxg2+ Kf1 Qxf3 Rxe7+
   6/19   1.51   x.xx    ... Qh3
   6/19   2.40   0.37    ... Qh3 Bf1 Qf5 Rd3 Qxf6 Bxe7 Nxe7 Rxd7 Bxf3 Rdxe7+
   6-->   3.61   0.37    ... Qh3 Bf1 Qf5 Rd3 Qxf6 Bxe7 Nxe7 Rxd7 Bxf3 Rdxe7+
   7/21   4.36     --    ... Qh3
   7/21   5.22  -0.32    ... Qh3 Bf1 Qf5 Bb5 Qxf3 Rxe7+ Kd8 Rdxd7+ Kc8 Bxc6
                         Bxc6
   7/21   8.48   x.xx    ... Rxg2+
   7/21   8.66   0.39    ... Rxg2+ Kxg2 Ne5 Be4 Qg4+ Kh1 Nxf3 Bxe7 Nxe1 Rxe1
                         Bxf2
   7/22  10.23   x.xx    ... Ne5
   7/22  10.41     ++    ... Ne5
   7/22  10.58   0.88    ... Ne5 Rxe5 Rxg2+ Kf1 Rxf2+ Ke1 Bc6 Rxe7+ Kd8 Qh4
                         Bxf3 Qxh5 Bxh5
   7-->  10.99   0.88    ... Ne5 Rxe5 Rxg2+ Kf1 Rxf2+ Ke1 Bc6 Rxe7+ Kd8 Qh4
                         Bxf3 Qxh5 Bxh5
   8/22  11.13     --    ... Ne5
   8/23  11.84  -2.68    ... Ne5 Rxe5 Rxg2+ Kf1 Bc6 Rxe7+ Kd8 Rxd7+ Bxd7 Be7+
                         Ke8 Qxd7+ Kxd7 Bg6+ Kc6 Bxh5 Rxf2+
   8/23  12.13   x.xx    ... Qh3
   8/25  14.75   0.00    ... Qh3 Bf1 Qf5 Bd3 Qh3
   8/25  16.33   x.xx    ... Rxg2+
   8/25  16.82   0.54    ... Rxg2+ Kxg2 Ne5 Qxd7+ Nxd7 Rxe7+ Kd8 Rxd7+ Kc8
                         Rd8+ Kxd8 Bf5+ Bd4 Rxd4+ Ke8 Bd7+ Kd8
   8/25  24.20   x.xx    ... Bd4
   8/25  26.67   0.57    ... Bd4 Nxd4 Rxg2+ Kxg2 Nxd4+ Be4 Bxe4+ Rxe4 Qg6+
                         Kh3 Qxe4 Qxd4 Qxd4 Rxd4
   8-->  27.25   0.57    ... Bd4 Nxd4 Rxg2+ Kxg2 Nxd4+ Be4 Bxe4+ Rxe4 Qg6+
                         Kh3 Qxe4 Qxd4 Qxd4 Rxd4
   9/28  29.34     --    ... Bd4
   9/28  33.80  -1.33    ... Bd4 cxd4 Qxf3 Be4 Rxg2+ Kh1 Rxh2+ Kxh2 Qxf6 Bxc6
                         Bxc6 Bxe7 Qxf2+
   9/28  36.54   x.xx    ... Qh3
   9/28  43.53   0.00    ... Qh3 Bf1 Qf5 Bd3 Qh3
   9-->   1:07   0.00    ... Qh3 Bf1 Qf5 Bd3 Qh3
  10/29   1:21   0.00    ... Qh3 Bf1 Qf5 Bd3 Qh3
  10-->   1:53   0.00    ... Qh3 Bf1 Qf5 Bd3 Qh3
  11/31   2:29   0.00    ... Qh3 Bf1 Qf5 Bd3 Qh3
  11...   2:59  11/45    Kf8

Time: 3:00, cpu 89.79%, nodes 81703852, nps 453859
Hash: 128M, used 85%, hits 18%
EGTB: probs 0, hits 0

Best move: Qh3 (0.00)  Solved (6/6)

Summery: 6/6




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