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Subject: Re: KQ vs KR

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:01:43 10/12/98

On October 11, 1998 at 13:41:16, John Coffey wrote:

>Can a program like crafty win KQ vs. KR without tablebases?  (Assuming a
>minute or so per move?)
>
>John Coffey

Crafty can't...  I doubt any program can.  Most GM's can't until they
study it...  I was at the ACM event where Browne tried to beat Belle and
failed miserably several times.  He studied it, then at the rematch
he won easily.  But it is non-trivial the first time, and I have had
an occasional GM get into this ending on ICC and offer a draw immediately.

Re: KQ vs KR José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba 09:35:06 10/13/98
Fritz 5 can mate with KR vs KQ with no tablebase at 20 sec. a move. Mark Young 09:13:36 10/13/98
- Junior 4.6 also can win KQ VS KR without tablebase. Mark Young 10:57:38 10/13/98
- Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KR vs KQ with no tablebase at 20 sec. a move. Ernst A. Heinz 09:48:35 10/13/98
  - Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KR vs KQ with no tablebase at 20 sec. a move. blass uri 10:02:48 10/13/98
  - Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR with no tablebase at 20 sec. a move. Mark Young 09:53:10 10/13/98
    - Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) Robert Hyatt 14:35:34 10/13/98
      - Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba 09:03:40 10/14/98
      - Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) Roberto Waldteufel 06:45:41 10/14/98
      - Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) Mark Young 15:41:22 10/13/98
        
        Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) Robert Hyatt 17:37:43 10/13/98
        
        Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) John Coffey 09:18:37 10/14/98
        
        Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) Robert Hyatt 09:45:08 10/14/98
        
        Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) Roberto Waldteufel 18:13:07 10/14/98
        
        Re: KBBK and KBNK (was: [...] KQ vs KR [...]) Ernst A. Heinz 01:00:43 10/15/98
        
        Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) Robert Hyatt 19:05:56 10/14/98
        
        Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) Dann Corbit 00:16:42 10/15/98
        
        Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) Robert Hyatt 06:53:20 10/15/98
        
        Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) Mark Young 18:55:12 10/13/98
        
        Re: Fritz 5 can mate with KQ vs KR (boy was I wrong here) Robert Hyatt 09:24:53 10/14/98
Re: KQ vs KR Dave Gomboc 23:26:39 10/12/98
- Re: KQ vs KR Robert Hyatt 06:41:30 10/13/98
Re: KQ vs KR Jouni Uski 22:53:42 10/12/98
- Re: KQ vs KR Robert Hyatt 06:43:34 10/13/98
- Re: KQ vs KR blass uri 23:18:58 10/12/98
  - Re: KQ vs KR Robert Hyatt 06:45:25 10/13/98

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