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Subject: Re: New Chess computer

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 15:24:30 04/17/03

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On April 17, 2003 at 02:55:43, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On April 17, 2003 at 00:26:47, andrew tanner wrote:
>
>>On April 16, 2003 at 21:52:31, Midchael Ritter wrote:
>>
>>>I'm getting back into playing chess after 20 years. I had a Fidelity Sensory 12
>>>machine that worked fine. When I unpacked it it did not work.
>>>Can anyone tell me which game to buy in the 100 to 200 dollar range. What about
>>>the Grand Master 747k? Help in aiding me to purchase the right one the first
>>>time would be very helpfull.
>>>
>>>Thank's
>>>Mike
>> Go to toysrus.com which takes you to amazon.com and do a search for chess. You
>>will see the kasparov computer chessboard by saitek? for an amazingly low price
>>of $20.0 I think it has a rating of around 2400..not bad for the price.. If you
>>look anywhere else for this very same unit it costs upwards of $55.0 US
>
>
>I have one of those Kasparov GK-2000 made by Saitek and it is NOT even close to
>1900 Elo in Strength. You can also see how the SSDF rated itas 1896.
>
> 135 Kasparov GK-2000   H8 10 MHz            1896   29   -29   593   42%  1952
> 136 Psion Atari  68000 8 MHz                1882   18   -18  1487   44%  1928
> 137 CXG Sphinx Galaxy  6502 4 MHz           1880   17   -17  1710   37%  1974
> 138 Novag Ruby H8  10 MHz                   1879   30   -30   545   42%  1934
> 139 Fidelity Excel Mach IIa  68000 12 MHz   1878   46   -47   226   47%  1898
> 140 Saitek Turboking II  6502 5 MHz         1868   23   -23   963   37%  1964

I always thought GK 2000 was rated near 1900 ,,as it is by SSDF -- 1896 is near
1900 right? or are you saying SSDF 1896 is not near 1900 ?  I think it is near
1900 USCF -- but that may be near 1800 FIDE -- not really sure -- my take was
that USCF was near 100 points higher than FIDE, but I haven't looked in a while.

The 1900 is at longer time controls, and Tiger on Palm is noticably stronger and
plays a much more interesting game.

This one listed at Amazon is NOT  the GK 2000 although it is about $20.  It is
much weaker than the GK -2000.

The GK 2000 is out of production

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000033K1E/qid=1050617847/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-4148419-2804667?v=glance&s=toys

If you do want a dedicated unit, this is the current strongest model available
that is in production.  It is available right here from our sponsor ICD.

http://www.icdchess.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?page=8/82-N16.html&item=82-N16&cart_id=2119553.17760



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