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Subject: Re: New Chess computer

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 07:03:14 04/18/03

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On April 17, 2003 at 20:13:40, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 17, 2003 at 18:24:30, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>On April 17, 2003 at 02:55:43, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On April 17, 2003 at 00:26:47, andrew tanner wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 16, 2003 at 21:52:31, Midchael Ritter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm getting back into playing chess after 20 years. I had a Fidelity Sensory 12
>>>>>machine that worked fine. When I unpacked it it did not work.
>>>>>Can anyone tell me which game to buy in the 100 to 200 dollar range. What about
>>>>>the Grand Master 747k? Help in aiding me to purchase the right one the first
>>>>>time would be very helpfull.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank's
>>>>>Mike
>>>> Go to toysrus.com which takes you to amazon.com and do a search for chess. You
>>>>will see the kasparov computer chessboard by saitek? for an amazingly low price
>>>>of $20.0 I think it has a rating of around 2400..not bad for the price.. If you
>>>>look anywhere else for this very same unit it costs upwards of $55.0 US
>>>
>>>
>>>I have one of those Kasparov GK-2000 made by Saitek and it is NOT even close to
>>>1900 Elo in Strength. You can also see how the SSDF rated itas 1896.
>>>
>>> 135 Kasparov GK-2000   H8 10 MHz            1896   29   -29   593   42%  1952
>>> 136 Psion Atari  68000 8 MHz                1882   18   -18  1487   44%  1928
>>> 137 CXG Sphinx Galaxy  6502 4 MHz           1880   17   -17  1710   37%  1974
>>> 138 Novag Ruby H8  10 MHz                   1879   30   -30   545   42%  1934
>>> 139 Fidelity Excel Mach IIa  68000 12 MHz   1878   46   -47   226   47%  1898
>>> 140 Saitek Turboking II  6502 5 MHz         1868   23   -23   963   37%  1964
>>
>>I always thought GK 2000 was rated near 1900 ,,as it is by SSDF -- 1896 is near
>>1900 right? or are you saying SSDF 1896 is not near 1900 ?  I think it is near
>>1900 USCF -- but that may be near 1800 FIDE -- not really sure -- my take was
>>that USCF was near 100 points higher than FIDE, but I haven't looked in a while.
>
>1900 ssdf is supposed to be equivalent to 2000 fide.
>
>in the beginning the ssdf was supposed to be equivalent to Fide for the weak
>programs but the ssdf reduced the rating of all the program by 100 elo.
>
>Uri

I think they did just that so their numbers should be more in line with Fide
Elo.

Torstein



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