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Subject: Re: wanted: perspectives on the future of chess

Author: Alan Grotier

Date: 13:29:40 04/18/03

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On April 18, 2003 at 11:44:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 18, 2003 at 03:49:46, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>On April 17, 2003 at 00:35:03, andrew tanner wrote:
>>
>>>   I was wondering if people have come to the general consensus that computers
>>>are increasingly becoming unbeatable and consequently the game may soon be
>>>losing interest and support except for the famed "man v machine" contest. Of
>>>course there will always be enthusiastic support from hobbyists, I am referring
>>>specifically about the masses.
>>>   Here is a typical scenario: A child plays his best friend and wins, then
>>>proceeds to return home to his playstation where he gets clobbered even on the
>>>easy levels by the tireless machine. Being a precocious youngster, he concludes
>>>that "the only way to win is not to play" - excerpted from the movie "war Games"
>>
>>USCF membership has been on the rise for the past several years, despite the
>>depressing (from a human's standpoint) results of high-profile human-computer
>>games.
>>
>>I don't think computers are any more unbeatable to the average player than they
>>were 10 years ago.
>>
>>-Tom
>
>
>I think the _big_ problem is that computers are _not_ "good teachers".  A human
>expert
>(USCF 2000) can teach a beginner so much about the game, while the computer just
>tears
>his head off and tosses it into a sack.


"Of course you do have a point" But I state honestly as an up and down 1500-1600
player striving to improve,modern chess software including Crafy (A great
program -Never understood why it is free) has help me do this enormously in no
end of ways!
I include in this statement also other non chess related computer learning
tools.
Yes most definately computer learning tools which includes chess programes DOES
help the layman to improve.
My problem has always been I travel a lot for business.Never been able to follow
a 9 to 5pm or week day  schedual.

Salut: Alan


>
>This problem is _years_ away from any real progress...
>
>And until it is "fixed" the computers are not going to replace humans at all, in
>terms of
>playing chess.



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